What was said

TCP Building Design Committee, January 29, 2020

the recording · 3:23 long, about 26,999 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 3:17:56The committee made no selection; it interviewed three architect finalists for reusing the old Passios school and deferred the choice to a later meeting.
  2. ▶ 3:17:56Meetings were set for Wednesday Feb 5 at 6 p.m., Feb 12 and Feb 26, with Feb 19 skipped for the holiday week.
  3. ▶ 3:18:59The chair will coordinate reference checks with the town manager's office, and results will be shared as scores rather than in minutes.
  4. ▶ 3:21:23Members were asked to bring their scoring rubric numbers to the next meeting so a composite evaluation can be built.
  5. ▶ 2:43:09Johnson Roberts, the second firm and Abacus each answered questions on cost control, and Abacus raised how the project might be funded.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The firm chosen will design the reuse of the old Passios school as town offices, school administration and community space, which sets the scope and cost of a project that may later reach residents as a funding vote.
  • Abacus raised whether the project would be funded through the capital plan, a debt exclusion or an override; a debt exclusion or override would appear on a tax bill and need a ballot vote.

Watch next

  • Committee meeting Wednesday Feb 5 at 6 p.m., where members bring scoring rubric numbers for a composite evaluation.
  • Reference check results, to be shared as scores, and further meetings on Feb 12 and Feb 26.

capitalcontracts and unionsfacilitieshiringplanning and zoningtown departmentstown meeting

Present: Greg Roy (chair, community member); Tanner Coulomb (member, Planning Board representative); Dave Paseos (member, Finance Committee representative); Mike Mack (member, community member); Brian Layton (member, School Committee representative); Damon McQuaid (member, Board of Selectmen representative); Heather Lamu (town manager). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 1 procedural.

The money

  1. ▶ 8:20Architect cost control record

    Johnson Roberts said its projects bid below estimate on average and change orders stay low.

    as heard:six percent belowunder 1%

  2. ▶ 36:00Essex police/fire station

    Johnson Roberts cited a combined public safety building in a small town that won design and construction funding at town meeting.

    as heard:17 22 million3,500

  3. ▶ 1:38:45Estimate accuracy

    The second firm said its estimates land close to bids and it holds guaranteed maximum price contracts through its construction arm.

    as heard:3 to 5 percent

  4. ▶ 1:52:45Subconsultant share of fee

    The second firm said only the civil/landscape subconsultant would take a small share of the contract.

    as heard:five to ten percent

  5. ▶ 39:11Subconsultant share of fee

    Johnson Roberts estimated a quarter of the work would go to consultants.

    as heard:25%

  6. ▶ 2:43:29Fee split and survey cost

    Abacus estimated the split between architecture and consultants and said a land survey could be paid from the study funds set aside.

    as heard:60% architectural and 40% consultants

  7. ▶ 2:43:09Funding route for the project

    Abacus raised whether the project would be funded via the capital plan, debt exclusion or override.

  8. ▶ 2:55:24Medfield study billing

    Abacus described billing only a portion of a six-figure study fee because work was paced to town politics.

    as heard:20% of the whole feesix figures

  9. ▶ 2:23:17Cost of prior renovation plan

    Abacus referred to an earlier plan's renovation cost and said its approach would cost more but give better value.

    as heard:nine and a half million dollars

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 3:17:56Meetings set for Wednesday Feb 5 at 6 p.m., Feb 12 and Feb 26; Feb 19 skipped for the holiday week.
  • ▶ 3:18:59Reference checks will be coordinated by the chair with the town manager's office, with results shared as scores rather than minutes.
  • ▶ 3:21:23Members to bring their scoring rubric numbers to the next meeting to build a composite evaluation.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Interview and presentation: Johnson Roberts Associatesinformational · 49:50 long · hiring, facilities
  2. ▶ 59:38Interview and presentation: second architecture/engineering teaminformational · 1:03:22 long · hiring, facilities
  3. ▶ 2:08:52Interview and presentation: Abacus Architectsinformational · 1:04:23 long · hiring, facilities
  4. ▶ 3:13:56Evaluation process, meeting schedule, reference checksmeetings set; evaluation next meeting · 9:19 long · hiring
  5. ▶ 3:23:15Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 0:14 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Adjournment vote count not stated; only 'aye' is captioned.
  • Long stretches between interviews (about 3100-3570 and 7380-7730 seconds) are setup chatter or music.
  • Name of the second firm is garbled in the captions.
  • Prior minutes were not available.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 2:23:17TC Passios building costsWhat do the earlier studies say the Passios school reuse would cost, including hazardous material abatement?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site
  • ▶ 30:33Abatement costWhat hazardous materials and abatement costs are expected in the 1950s building?

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