What was said

TCP Building Design Committee, March 11, 2020

the recording · 1:38 long, about 13,539 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:29The TCP Building Design Committee held its kickoff with the architect team on the schedule, site surveys, visioning, a traffic study and public outreach.
  2. ▶ 1:34:39The committee tentatively set meetings for April 8 and April 22, ahead of spring Town Meeting; no votes were taken.
  3. ▶ 11:48Architects will attach high-level dollar ranges to options in the pre-schematic phase and refine them as the design advances.
  4. ▶ 1:31:35Committee communication with the architects will go through the procurement officer because of Open Meeting Law limits.
  5. ▶ 56:03Senior Center, Teen Center and Boys and Girls Club are to be consulted in visioning sessions; contract scope additions were discussed afterward.

Why it matters — our reading

  • This is the early design stage for a possible reuse of the TC Passios building for town offices and community space, and the cost ranges produced here will shape any funding request residents may later be asked to vote on at Town Meeting.
  • Questions raised about long-term upkeep and the yearly cost of vacant buildings bear on future tax-supported capital and maintenance spending.

Watch next

  • Committee meetings tentatively set for April 8 and April 22.
  • The architect contract appendix and any optional scope additions, such as hazardous materials and geotechnical work, which the committee has yet to settle.

capitalcontracts and unionsfacilitieshousingplanning and zoningpublic safetytown departmentstown meetingturkey hill

Present: Rick Roy (chair); Dave black (vice chair); Mike (secretary); Dave Castillo (member (Finance Committee)); Tanner Cole (planning board representative); Bradley (School Committee member); McQuade (Board of Selectmen member); Heather (procurement officer); John (building facilities staff); Salvage Giorgio (presenter, project manager and lead structural engineer); Tom Lee DiGiorgio (presenter, principal and project architect). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 1 procedural.

The money

  1. ▶ 11:48Preliminary pricing of options

    Architects will attach high-level dollar ranges to options in the pre-schematic phase and refine them as design advances.

    as heard:five to seven millionfive point five six

  2. ▶ 16:41Architect contract appendix

    An appendix with a more detailed scope of services was sent and the contract would be executed once the committee is satisfied; contract and invoicing go to the procurement officer.

  3. ▶ 34:37Budget discipline for the project

    A member said the project depends on keeping the budget in mind, with town offices the focus of spending.

  4. ▶ 1:04:43Long-term maintenance capital

    A member asked that the building not require heavy capital investment over twenty years.

    as heard:20 years

  5. ▶ 1:07:11Carrying cost of vacant buildings

    A member said a vacant building costs the town money every year, citing another town's old school.

    as heard:a couple hundred thousand dollars a year

  6. ▶ 1:36:37Contract scope additions

    Members discussed optional additions to the scope such as hazardous materials and geotechnical work; phase one environmental is included.

  7. ▶ 1:37:19Advertising and outreach costs

    Members suggested outreach materials and printing be done by the architect within the contract.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:34:39Tentatively set committee meetings for April 8 and April 22 ahead of spring Town Meeting.
  • ▶ 32:11Architects will schedule a joint walkthrough and survey with all engineers, coordinating through the procurement officer and John.
  • ▶ 56:03Stakeholders such as the Senior Center, Teen Center and Boys and Girls Club to be consulted in visioning sessions.
  • ▶ 1:31:35Committee communication with the architects will flow through the procurement officer because of Open Meeting Law limits.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:02Opening, Open Meeting Law notice, public commentinformational · 1:27 long · public comment
  2. ▶ 1:29Architect kickoff: team, site survey, schedule, contractinformational · 16:40 long · facilities, contracts and unions
  3. ▶ 18:09Schedule, town meetings and community outreachinformational · 10:11 long · town meeting, facilities
  4. ▶ 28:01Plot plan, land survey and scanning logisticsinformational · 4:09 long · planning and zoning, facilities
  5. ▶ 32:11Visioning: uses, offices, meeting spaces, securityinformational · 21:09 long · facilities, town departments
  6. ▶ 53:21Stakeholder involvement and which departments to includeinformational · 6:59 long · town departments
  7. ▶ 1:00:20Priorities, barriers, Brooks House and unknown conditionsinformational · 14:40 long · facilities, capital
  8. ▶ 1:15:00Public questionnaire, traffic study and site accessinformational · 13:50 long · roads and dpw, public safety
  9. ▶ 1:28:50Boys and Girls Club use and communication rulesinformational · 4:20 long · recreation, legal
  10. ▶ 1:33:10Committee business: meeting dates, contract scope, outreach costs, adjournmentdates tentatively set; adjourned · 5:10 long · contracts and unions, budget

What the captions could not carry

  • Result of the adjournment vote is not in the captions.
  • Captions are heavily garbled in places, with mangled names, so speaker identity is often unclear.
  • Details of contract scope additions were unclear.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 11:48TC Passios costsWhat will converting the TC Passios building to town offices and community space cost, and how will it be priced?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site
  • ▶ 56:44Town office spaceWhich town departments will move into the building and how much space do they need?already answered: thread:town-offices
  • ▶ 1:06:50Brooks House costsWhat does the vacant Brooks House cost the town each year?already answered: thread:brooks-house

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026