What was said
TCP Building Design Committee, August 17, 2020
the recording · 2:44 long, about 20,782 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/tcp-building-design-committee/2020.json
The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 1:50:10Members agreed to tell the architects they do not want new additional space beyond small areas such as bathrooms.
- ▶ 27:35The committee voted on the chair's plan for dividing up the work of preparing the past minutes; the minutes record the vote as not audible.
- ▶ 1:04:20The architects presented existing-conditions, code and environmental findings and two test-fit layouts for the building.
- ▶ 2:29:36The chair will draft a community outreach notice, and Mr. Allison will be asked to contact the Grange and agricultural groups.
- ▶ 2:09:22Next meetings were set for August 31 and September 10, then September 21.
Why it matters — our reading
- The building's size and use are being settled before any cost is set, and ruling out an addition limits what the project can hold and, in turn, what voters may later be asked to fund.
- Architects have said they will give cost ranges by component only once scope items are identified, so a total price is not yet known.
Watch next
- Meeting on August 31, with a community outreach notice drafted by the chair; later meetings on September 10 and September 21.
- Cost ranges by component from the architects once scope items are identified.
budgetcapitalfacilitieshousingpolicypublic commenttown departments
Present: Greg Roy (chair); Tanner Cole (member); David Blatt (member); Dave Pacios (member); Michael Ray Jeffries (member); Brian (member); Tom (presenter); Ed (presenter); John Londa (town official). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 27:35Approve the chair's plan for dividing up the work of preparing the past minutes — moved by Brian, as heardnot audible
And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of the last meeting with the discussed modifications (▶ 20:42); adjourn (▶ 2:44:00).
The money
- ▶ 49:39Overall project cost
A member asked for a sense of whether the project is heading toward a ten or fifteen million range. The architects said they would give ranges by component with caveats once scope items are identified.
as heard:10 million dollar price tag range15 million
- ▶ 1:44:06Commercial kitchen cost
A member cited a past kitchen renovation as an example of cost and said voters would not favor an expensive commercial kitchen.
as heard:820 000million dollar commercial kitchen
- ▶ 2:37:46State bond bill
A resident said a bond bill grant for a community kitchen and other uses has not been discussed.
as heard:a million dollars
- ▶ 2:38:35Middle high school cost
A resident criticised the cost of the new middle high school.
as heard:72 million dollars
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:50:10Members agreed to tell the architects they do not want new additional space beyond small areas such as bathrooms.
- ▶ 2:09:22Next meetings set for August 31 and September 10, then September 21.
- ▶ 2:29:36The chair will draft a community outreach notice for the August 31 meeting. Mr. Allison will be asked to reach out to the Grange and the agricultural groups.
- ▶ 2:32:51The chair will check with the architects before the August 31 agenda on whether they need time.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The town has not published minutes for this meeting.
Heard in the recording
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 3:03Missing minutes on the website, whether a non-municipal use such as the Grange or a public market could be considered, and what the planning process is. — Matthew Allison, as heard, chairman of planning board and agricultural commission
- ▶ 2:33:13Personal views: the building should be municipal and community space, the schools do not need space there, the commercial kitchen should not be only for the cable group, the bond bill money has not been discussed, and the Grange needs only a few hours twice a month. — Matthew Allison, as heard, resident
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- facilities94 min · 57%
- policy51 min · 31%
- public comment43 min · 26%
- town departments42 min · 26%
- capital34 min · 21%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:00Open meeting law and remote meeting ground rulesinformational · 3:03 long
- ▶ 3:03Public comment and the select board's reply on charge and minutesinformational · 8:17 long · public comment, policy
- ▶ 11:20Approval of last meeting's minutesvoted · 10:20 long · policy
- ▶ 21:40Plan for the backlog of past minutesvoted · 8:45 long · policy
- ▶ 30:25Architect update: scan, existing conditions, code and environmental reportsinformational · 33:55 long · facilities, capital
- ▶ 1:04:20Space program and test-fit layouts, committee feedbackinformational · 42:20 long · facilities, town departments
- ▶ 1:46:40Additions, boys and girls club and future spaceno resolution · 17:40 long · facilities
- ▶ 2:04:20Meeting scheduledecided · 5:20 long
- ▶ 2:09:40Community outreachchair to draft notice · 23:30 long · public comment, policy
- ▶ 2:33:13Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 10:47 long · public comment
What the captions could not carry
- Roll call vote counts are only partly captioned for the minutes and adjournment votes.
- Who seconded the minutes motion is unclear.
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 49:07TC Passios costsWhat would renovating the TC Passios building cost under the different building code levels?already answered:
thread:tc-passios-site - ▶ 1:26:26Town office space needsHow much space do the town offices, schools and other groups need in the building?already answered:
thread:town-offices
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