TCP Building Design Committee, January 13, 2021

The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

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Present: Greg (chair); Dave Flatt (member); Dave Pacios (member); Brian Leighton (member); Matthew Allison (member); Michael Ray Jeffries (member); Tom (presenter (architect)); Ed (presenter (engineer)); Heather (town manager); John Londa (facilities / town official). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

1. ▶ 36:39Instruct the engineers to remove the trees and move the west wing parking lot up to the existing walkway, with other necessary changes. — moved by Dave Pacios, as heardpassed 5-1

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes as presented for november 30th and december 14th. (▶ 2:32:55); adjourn. (▶ 2:50:16).

The money

1. ▶ 34:33West wing parking and sidewalk layout

   A member said sliding the parking toward the building might save cost by reducing the slope and retaining wall. Replacement trees were said to cost little.

   as heard:10 feet

2. ▶ 43:55Construction cost estimate and escalation

   The architects are building the estimate with hard and soft costs and need a design start date to calculate escalation to the midpoint of construction. August was agreed as the assumed design start.

3. ▶ 1:12:53Loading dock

   The architect said loading docks are expensive and a ramp would add cost. Members preferred a sketch of a ramp alternative.

   as heard:36 feet46 feet

4. ▶ 1:41:47Sliding transaction windows

   Members agreed to price sliding windows as an add alternate while the base stays fixed windows.

   as heard:five million dollar project

5. ▶ 1:52:55Commercial kitchen equipment

   The architect estimated outfitting the kitchen from a comparable project. The committee leaned toward installing infrastructure only.

   as heard:200 some 200 000250 to 300two and three hundred thousand

6. ▶ 1:54:18Bond bill for kitchen

   A member noted a bond bill for a commercial kitchen is unreleased and unrequested.

   as heard:350 thousand dollarshundred thousand dollars

7. ▶ 2:13:55Owner-furnished items and soft costs

   Furniture, AV, security, signage and office furniture were discussed for the budget. Pricing is to come from PAC, the facilities director and local vendors.

Settled without a vote

• ▶ 43:33The architect will ask the civil engineer whether pads at the west wing doors can replace the walkways, and will report back, with an email vote possible.
• ▶ 30:16The chair will ask the DPW director, who is tree warden, about the condition of the trees.
• ▶ 48:03The committee agreed to assume an August design start for escalation purposes.
• ▶ 1:26:52The architect will sketch a ramp option at the public stairs and check ADA needs, to be sent before the next meeting.
• ▶ 1:32:47A PAC van garage space was left unresolved for now.
• ▶ 1:37:40The committee agreed on standardized hard flooring (LVT, with VCT as an alternate in offices).
• ▶ 1:42:14Sliding windows to be priced as an add alternate with fixed windows as the base.
• ▶ 2:08:58No portable stage; new tables and chairs for meeting rooms one and three.
• ▶ 2:19:09Remove all lead paint, and the chimney, as part of the project.
• ▶ 2:25:26Next meeting set for the 27th; further schedule to be set in February.
• ▶ 1:05:30Two single bathrooms near the administrative wing to be labeled staff; the large bathrooms to be general public.

Documents and exhibits

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

1. ▶ 2:52Asked that PAC get an outside door matching the others with card access, a monitor by its corridor entrance, and a loading dock, and asked to join any discussion. — Steve Walker, as heard, chair of the public access cable committee, 227 Pleasant Street
2. ▶ 2:36:35Questioned the purpose of a public outreach forum held close to Town Meeting, since feedback would be hard to act on. — Karen Menard, as heard, resident

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

• facilities154 min · 90%
• capital121 min · 71%
• budget60 min · 35%
• public comment20 min · 12%

The whole meeting, in order

1. ▶ 0:00Open meeting law remote meeting statementinformational · 1:46 long
2. ▶ 2:29Public comment and committee comments (PAC door, loading dock, fallen panel)informational · 3:51 long · public comment, facilities
3. ▶ 6:21Civil site plan: walkways, west wing doors, parking and treesvoted 5-1 to move parking up to walkway · 37:34 long · facilities, capital
4. ▶ 43:55Cost estimate and escalation scheduleinformational · 7:15 long · capital, budget
5. ▶ 51:10User group updates and bathroom labelingdirection to relabel · 19:15 long · facilities
6. ▶ 1:10:25PAC loading dockarchitect to sketch ramp · 17:30 long · facilities, capital
7. ▶ 1:27:55PAC van parking and garageleft unresolved · 5:13 long · facilities
8. ▶ 1:33:08Owner-furnished items and soft costs (flooring, windows, kitchen, AV, security, furniture) and hazmat, chimney, sprinklersdirection given · 52:18 long · capital, budget, facilities
9. ▶ 2:25:26Temporary space, generator and acousticsinformational · 6:46 long · facilities, capital
10. ▶ 2:32:12Approval of minutesvoted · 1:46 long
11. ▶ 2:33:58Public outreach forum timingtarget early March · 5:05 long · public comment
12. ▶ 2:39:03Public and member comment on school programming in the building and historical documentationhistorical item for next agenda · 11:13 long · facilities, public comment
13. ▶ 2:50:16Adjournmentvoted · 0:44 long

What the captions could not carry

• Second to the parking motion was not identified.
• Adjournment roll call was mostly garbled.
• Which member cast the no vote on the parking motion; Michael Ray was asked second in the roll call and the count was given as five to one.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

• ▶ 43:55TC Passios renovation estimateWhat will the TC Passios renovation cost, including owner-furnished items and soft costs?
• ▶ 44:36Construction cost escalationHow will escalation to the construction midpoint affect the estimate?

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