TCP Building Design Committee, January 27, 2021

The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

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Present: Greg (chair); Brian Leighton (member); Dave Pacios (member); Michael Ray Jeffries (member); Dave Blatt (member); Matt Allison (member); Tom (presenter (architect)); Ed (presenter (architect/engineer)); John Londa (school/facilities official). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.

The money

1. ▶ 39:12Preliminary construction estimate by division

   Architect walked through division costs (general requirements, site work, demolition, hazmat, HVAC, electrical and others) adding to a subtotal before contingencies.

   as heard:1.26 million1.38 million500 000800 0002.9 million2.1 million15.658 million

2. ▶ 43:07Contingencies, overhead, bonds, escalation and total

   Contingency, contractor overhead and profit, bond and escalation were added to reach the total preliminary estimate.

   as heard:20 of that 15 millionsix percent151 00021 million 42 883 dollars

3. ▶ 46:13New construction comparison per square foot

   Architect cited a comparable new DPW facility and new school bids as higher or similar per square foot; the renovation works out to roughly the same range.

   as heard:550 dollars a square foot450 to 550420 a square footfour hundred and nine dollars a square foot

4. ▶ 50:22Design and construction contingency treatment

   Architects explained the design contingency is later absorbed into trade lines and the construction contingency is held by the owner, possibly as a soft cost.

   as heard:101.5 million

5. ▶ 1:01:43Phasing savings from single-phase construction

   Vacating the building could cut general requirements and temporary works costs.

   as heard:almost a hundred thousand a monthtwo or three hundred thousand dollarstwo or three million

6. ▶ 1:24:36Building permit fee

   Estimate includes a building permit fee that the town could waive.

   as heard:125 000 dollars

7. ▶ 2:14:22Debt service impact under debt cap

   A resident estimated annual debt service starting in 2024 and noted Turkey Hill debt to follow.

   as heard:11 cap1.2 and 1.4 million dollars

8. ▶ 22:06Furniture and equipment soft costs

   Furniture requests and network/security costs are being compiled as soft costs, with members urging reuse of existing furniture.

Settled without a vote

• ▶ 1:22:26Architects to return with a list or matrix of cost-saving options and price impacts, including big items like phasing and smaller items.
• ▶ 1:33:23Revised cost estimate to be sent to committee by Feb 12; next meeting set for Wednesday Feb 17.
• ▶ 1:38:53Public forum targeted for mid-March; to be taken up again at next meeting.
• ▶ 1:43:06Architects asked to reach out to the Lions Club regarding the food pantry space.
• ▶ 2:00:54Chair will draft a letter to the select board for committee review and put it on the next agenda.
• ▶ 2:11:29Meeting schedule: Feb 17, with March 3 penciled in and March 17.
• ▶ 18:59Architect to check whether emergency-exit-only doors need ramps or walkways.
• ▶ 1:03:25A member to ask the DPW director whether DPW could do paving or site work.
• ▶ 1:25:37Chair to check with town and building commissioner on waiving the building permit fee.

Documents and exhibits

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

1. ▶ 2:12:14Thanked committee; shocked by the cost, concerned about the tight timeline to town meeting, debt service under the debt cap, and Turkey Hill costs to follow; suggested possibly not bringing the project to town meeting or widening scope. — mr beardmore, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

• capital94 min · 67%
• facilities73 min · 52%
• town departments20 min · 14%
• public comment8 min · 5%
• debt8 min · 5%
• budget6 min · 4%
• town meeting4 min · 3%

The whole meeting, in order

1. ▶ 0:03Opening, roll call, public commentinformational · 4:13 long
2. ▶ 4:16Site plan update: crosswalks, gate, parking overlay, ADA doorsinformational · 16:49 long · facilities, capital
3. ▶ 19:41Toilets and furniture/equipment soft costsinformational · 9:44 long · capital
4. ▶ 29:26Basis of preliminary estimate and cost driversinformational · 9:24 long · capital, facilities
5. ▶ 38:31Preliminary estimate numbersinformational · 5:39 long · capital, budget
6. ▶ 44:10Committee reaction, new-build comparison, contingency, ways to cutinformational · 38:20 long · capital, facilities
7. ▶ 1:22:26Next steps and scheduling Feb 17date set · 14:14 long · capital
8. ▶ 1:36:41Approve minutesvoted · 1:31 long
9. ▶ 1:38:12Public outreachtarget mid-March forum · 3:48 long · town meeting
10. ▶ 1:42:00Correspondence and letter to select boardchair to draft letter · 19:37 long · town departments
11. ▶ 2:01:37Naming of the buildingno resolution · 8:23 long · facilities
12. ▶ 2:10:01Future meeting scheduledates set · 1:51 long
13. ▶ 2:11:52Public comment and adjournmentadjourned · 7:44 long · public comment, debt

What the captions could not carry

• Some speakers are unidentified in captions
• Line-item figures are caption renderings and may be unreliable
• Exact vote tallies were mostly not spelled out beyond roll call ayes

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

• ▶ 44:50TCP new-build costWhat would the same project cost as new construction versus the renovation estimate?
• ▶ 2:14:22TC Passios debt exclusionWhat would annual debt service be and how does it fit under the debt cap alongside Turkey Hill?already answered: thread:town-offices
• ▶ 43:07Construction cost escalationHow do contingency, escalation and phasing add to the estimate and what could be saved?

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