What was said

TCP Building Design Committee, March 3, 2021

the recording · 1:01 long, about 7,281 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The short version

▶ 34:49The TCP Building Design Committee reached informal consensus to ask for added design funding, a wider charge (building and/or land), and two products: preserve or build new.
▶ 33:07The committee will remove language about the future use of other vacated buildings from its Select Board letter; the chair will simplify it to bullets for review.
▶ 55:08A member will draft three warrant articles: an update report, a charge change, and funding.
▶ 32:06Members said the architects' design budget is spent while final documents and a town meeting presentation are still owed.
▶ 56:12No formal votes on the asks were taken; the January 13 minutes were approved and meetings were set for March 9, March 17, April 7 and April 21.

Why it matters — our reading

Further design money for the town center building project would need an appropriation, so residents may be asked to vote on funding and a changed committee charge at Town Meeting.
The financial advisor's debt scenarios for this project and Turkey Hill were described as fitting the town's debt ratios, with 20-year versions still to come, so the borrowing cost is not yet settled.

Watch next

March 9 Select Board appearance, where the committee will present its requests; later meetings set for March 17, April 7 and April 21.
The three draft warrant articles, and an architect's estimate for further design that the town manager said should be pinned down soon for the finance committee.

capital debt facilities planning and zoning town departments town meeting turkey hill warrant article

Present: Greg (chair); Dave Pacios (member); Michael Ray (member (vice chair)); Matt Allison (member); Heather (town manager). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.

The money

▶ 11:47Site work package estimate
The chair said the site package estimate looked possibly high to the DPW director and to him; paving by DPW would still be town money from a different bucket.
as heard:1.3 million dollar site package
▶ 32:06Architect design budget
Members said the design budget is spent and the architects still owe final documents and a town meeting presentation, so more funding is needed.
▶ 44:46Appropriation for further design
The town manager said an appropriation is needed and an estimate from the architect should be pinned down soon so the finance committee can discuss it.
▶ 45:29Debt scenarios for TCP and Turkey Hill
The financial advisor ran 30-year scenarios for both projects; both fit the town's debt ratios, and 20-year versions are coming.
as heard:21 million dollar27.4 million in 203021 million around 203050 msba reimbursement rate
▶ 52:42Past feasibility study costs
A member recalled the middle high school spent about half a million on feasibility studies before design, as an example of the cost of investigating.
as heard:half a million dollars

Settled without a vote

▶ 33:07Remove language from the Select Board letter about the committee's role in the future use of the other vacated buildings.
▶ 34:49Informal consensus to ask for added design funding, a charge change to and/or, and two products (preserve and build new).
▶ 55:08A member will draft three warrant articles: an update report, a charge change, and funding.
▶ 49:24The chair will simplify the letter into bullet points and circulate it for review before sending to the town manager.
▶ 56:12Meetings set for March 9 (Select Board), March 17, April 7 and April 21.
▶ 29:43Post a joint meeting for March 9 since a quorum may attend the Select Board.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

▶ 28:21email/letter to the Select Boardletter or email, shown
▶ 37:23rough order of magnitude cost estimatereport
▶ 50:28January 13 minutesprior minutes, shown

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

capital42 min · 68%
town meeting29 min · 47%
debt25 min · 40%
planning and zoning23 min · 37%
facilities17 min · 28%
warrant article4 min · 7%

The whole meeting, in order

▶ 0:11Opening remarks and public commentinformational · 2:06 long
▶ 2:17Member comments on previous night's committee reportno resolution · 5:18 long
▶ 7:35Design team update, DPW paving, path forward, tear-down option, preservation district and height limitsinformational · 17:08 long · facilities, capital, planning and zoning
▶ 24:43Planning the March 9 Select Board presentation and letter; debt scenariosconsensus on asks · 24:41 long · capital, debt, town meeting
▶ 49:24Approve January 13 minutesvoted · 2:12 long
▶ 51:36Warrant articlesmember to draft three articles · 4:16 long · warrant article, town meeting
▶ 55:52Meeting schedule, closing comments, building height bylaw, adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 5:27 long · planning and zoning

What the captions could not carry

Vote count on January 13 minutes: roll call ayes heard but names garbled
Who moved and seconded the adjournment is unclear
Exact dollar figures for the site package and debt scenarios are caption-rendered

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

▶ 45:29TC Passios debt exclusionWhat would debt for the TCP building cost taxpayers under 20- and 30-year terms?already answered: thread:town-offices
▶ 17:02TC Passios costsHow do the reuse and tear-down estimates compare, and how much more design money is needed?already answered: thread:tc-passios-site

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