What was said
TCP Building Design Committee, March 17, 2021
the recording · 0:47 long, about 6,279 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/tcp-building-design-committee/2021.json
The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.
The short version
- ▶ 30:29The committee agreed to tell the designers the proposed scope for a second, rebuild option looks generally right but should be bare-bones, a minimal estimate rather than design development.
- ▶ 28:41Members said school programs placed in the building would likely not be paid for by the state building program; Brian will follow up on whether that space is reimbursable.
- ▶ 42:16Members agreed to attend the March 25 Finance Committee hearing to speak to the funding article, which that committee may be split on.
- ▶ 20:40Eliminating the wraparound road and back-side parking was floated as a saving, and the designers were asked what it would save.
- ▶ 31:31The January 27 minutes were approved and the meeting adjourned; Dave Pacios will chair April 21.
Why it matters — our reading
- A cheaper, minimal price for the second option feeds the cost figure in the warrant article, which Town Meeting voters will be asked to approve.
- If school uses are not state-reimbursable, the town would carry that part of the cost itself, which falls on the tax bill.
Watch next
- March 25 Finance Committee public hearing on the committee's funding article.
- The designers' answers on the cost-reduction questions and a consolidated estimate sheet; next meetings April 7 and April 21.
budgetcapitalfacilitiesplanning and zoningtown departmentstown meetingwarrant article
Present: Dave Pacios (member); Brian Leighton (member); Dave Blatt (member); Michael Ray Jeffries (member); Greg (chair). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.
The money
- ▶ 4:42Cost figure for the warrant article
The chair and Heather are working with the designers on a scope so a number can be provided for the warrant article the select board voted on.
- ▶ 5:44Designer cost estimates
The designers gave separate construction and soft-cost estimates that must be added; the chair asked for one consolidated estimate sheet. Answers on cost-reduction questions (MEP savings after moving from three phases to one) are still pending.
- ▶ 12:17Next design phase funding
A member said town meeting would likely accept a lower design cost and more reluctantly a higher one.
as heard:100 00075 60 000
- ▶ 20:40Wraparound road and back parking site work
Eliminating the wraparound road and back-side parking was floated as a cost saving; designers were asked what it would save.
- ▶ 27:58State reimbursement for school uses
Members believe school programs placed in the building would not be funded by the state building program, leaving the town to pay; Brian will follow up.
- ▶ 39:52Funding article at Finance Committee hearing
The Finance Committee may be split on the committee's funding article, so a committee member should attend the March 25 hearing.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 30:29Committee will tell the designers the proposed scope looks generally right and that they want a rock-bottom, minimal-work estimate, not design development.
- ▶ 28:41Brian will follow up with the superintendent and others on whether school program space would be state-reimbursable.
- ▶ 42:16Members agreed to attend the March 25 Finance Committee public hearing to speak to the funding article; posting is not thought necessary.
- ▶ 45:28Dave Pacios will fill in as chair for the April 21 meeting; April 7 and 21 remain scheduled.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The town has not published minutes for this meeting.
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 4:42email on scope of workletter or email, shown
- ▶ 5:44construction cost estimate and soft cost sheetbudget document
- ▶ 7:48designers' project understanding and scope outlinecontract or agreement, shown
- ▶ 17:28town meeting parking requirements articlewarrant article
- ▶ 31:31January 27 minutesprior minutes, shown
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- capital28 min · 58%
- facilities28 min · 58%
- planning and zoning28 min · 58%
- turkey hill7 min · 15%
- debt7 min · 15%
- public comment7 min · 15%
- town meeting5 min · 10%
- warrant article5 min · 10%
- budget5 min · 10%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:11Opening, open meeting law notice, roll call, public commentprocedural · 3:49 long
- ▶ 4:00Scope of work for second TCP option: cost, town meeting, parking requirements, uses, state fundinginformational; consensus to communicate minimal scope · 27:31 long · capital, facilities, planning and zoning
- ▶ 31:31Approve January 27 minutesvoted · 1:05 long
- ▶ 32:36Correspondence and community feedback; Turkey Hill timing and debt policyinformational · 7:16 long · turkey hill, debt, public comment
- ▶ 39:52March 25 Finance Committee hearing attendancemembers agreed to attend · 4:48 long · town meeting, warrant article, budget
- ▶ 44:40Future meeting schedule and adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 2:50 long
What the captions could not carry
- Chair's name only heard as Greg; some speaker identities unclear
- Exact cost figures for design phase are unreliable in captions
- Chair's roll-call vote not clearly captioned
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 5:44Town office spaceWhat would a reduced-scope TCP building cost compared with the current design?already answered:
thread:town-offices - ▶ 17:28TCP parking requirementsHow would the proposed parking bylaw change affect required spaces and cost at the TCP site?
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