What was said

Town Meeting, November 17, 2020

the recording · 2:54 long, about 21,853 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town has published neither minutes nor an agenda for this meeting. The recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:24:37Town Meeting approved the tax agreement (TIF) with Mass Greenhouse LLC (Bright Farms) by a clear majority after long debate.
  2. ▶ 28:06Voters approved buying the street lights, with more than two-thirds in favor but not unanimous.
  3. ▶ 2:25:13The stormwater bylaw amendment passed by majority, with a few opposed over costs and property rights.
  4. ▶ 20:07Funds were approved for FY21 budget transfers, deferred capital projects, and deposits to stabilization and OPEB; the two union contracts passed with some opposed.
  5. ▶ 2:51:08A quorum challenge near the end was settled by hand count, and the meeting finished the last article.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The greenhouse agreement exempts a company from part of its property taxes for eight years in exchange for expected new revenue and jobs, so it affects what that property pays toward the tax base.
  • The street light purchase, the contract raises and the savings and OPEB deposits shape future town costs and tax bills, and the stormwater bylaw may add study costs for some private landowners.

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Present: Moderator (chair); Mr. Alonso (member); Mr. Jeffries (member); Mr. Dwyer (member); Mr. Marino/Mourinho (member); Ms. Adams (member); Ms. Lemieux (town manager); Adam Costa (town counsel); Adam Bernie (land use director); Rob Oliva (DPW director); Dave Pacios (finance committee member); Peter Beardmore (finance committee member); Chris Menard (finance committee member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 8:05Consent calendar: Articles 3, 10, 11, 12 and 13 — moved by Moderator/select board, as heardpassed unanimously
  2. ▶ 10:32Article 1: transfers among FY21 budget lines — moved by Mr. Alonso, as heardpassed unanimously
  3. ▶ 20:07Article 2: fund the FY21 deferred capital plan — moved by Mr. Jeffries, as heardpassed unanimously
  4. ▶ 28:06Article 4: raise and appropriate for acquisition of street lights — moved by Mr. Marino, as heardpassed, more than two-thirds, not unanimous
  5. ▶ 49:18Article 5: appropriate to the stabilization fund — moved by Mr. Dwyer, as heardpassed unanimously
  6. ▶ 51:24Article 6: appropriate to the special purpose stabilization fund — moved by Mr. Alonso, as heardpassed, one opposed, more than two-thirds
  7. ▶ 53:48Article 7: appropriate to the OPEB trust fund — moved by Mr. Jeffries, as heardpassed, more than two-thirds, not unanimous
  8. ▶ 58:02Article 8: transfer from salary reserve for the firefighters contract — moved by Ms. Adams, as heardpassed, not unanimous, majority
  9. ▶ 1:09:03Article 9: transfer from salary reserve for the AFSCME contract — moved by Mr. Moreno, as heardpassed, a couple opposed
  10. ▶ 1:11:28Article 14: authorize acquisition by gift of part of 250 Howard Street — moved by Mr. Mourinho, as heardpassed unanimously
  11. ▶ 1:20:50Article 15: pass over — moved by Mr. Dwyer, as heardpassed unanimously
  12. ▶ 1:24:37Article 16: approve TIF agreement with Mass Greenhouse LLC — moved by Mr. Alonso, as heardpassed by clear majority
  13. ▶ 1:54:00Article 17: hear interim report from TCP design committee — moved by Mr. Jeffries, as heardnot audible
  14. ▶ 2:15:20Article 18: transfer care and custody of a parcel to Conservation Commissionpassed unanimously
  15. ▶ 2:18:54Article 19: transfer care and custody of parcel on NW Townsend Road to Conservation — moved by Mr. Moreno, as heardpassed unanimously
  16. ▶ 2:25:13Article 20: amend stormwater bylaw — moved by Mr. Dwyer, as heardpassed, a few opposed, majority

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 10:32From group health insurance and other FY21 lines to IT, police, fire, health, highway and facilities (Article 1)eighty six thousand seven hundred seventy nine dollarsvoted
▶ 8:48Sewer enterprise retained earnings to sewer reserve capacity stabilization fundsixty eight thousand ninety seven dollars and fifty nine centsvoted
▶ 58:02From salary reserve line thirteen to fund the firefighters contractsixteen thousand four hundred and sixty three dollars and fifty seven centsvoted
▶ 1:09:03From salary reserve line thirteen to fund the AFSCME contractthirteen thousand three and eighty nine dollars and forty three centsvoted

The money

  1. ▶ 8:05Article 3 prior year expenses

    Raise and appropriate for prior year bills on the consent calendar.

    as heard:150 dollars

  2. ▶ 8:27Consent calendar: PEG cable and sewer transfers

    Transfer from PEG access retained earnings to capital, and sewer retained earnings to the sewer capacity stabilization fund.

    as heard:120 000sixty eight thousand ninety seven dollars and fifty nine cents

  3. ▶ 12:35State aid and new growth

    State aid held level, cherry sheet assessments came in lower and new growth higher than estimated.

    as heard:five thousand nine hundred and thirty one dollarsa hundred and thirty five thousand three hundred and thirty two dollars

  4. ▶ 20:07Article 2 deferred capital plan

    Funds deferred projects such as the carport reconfiguration, library carpet, DPW truck and cruiser, with prior article balances used.

    as heard:four hundred ninety four thousand three hundred and thirty three dollars135 00058 833

  5. ▶ 31:10Street light purchase

    The green team said buying the lights from Unitil would cut yearly costs; the price quoted had risen.

    as heard:91 00072 60050 000 a year

  6. ▶ 49:18Article 5 stabilization deposit

    Additional deposit to build up regular stabilization.

    as heard:two hundred twelve thousand two hundred and fifty two dollarstwo million one hundred and eighty eight thousand three hundred and forty seven dollars

  7. ▶ 51:24Article 6 special purpose stabilization

    Deposit to offset future vehicle and equipment capital costs.

    as heard:two hundred and fifty thousand dollars946 470

  8. ▶ 53:48Article 7 OPEB deposit

    Deposit deferred in June; liability described as large.

    as heard:one hundred and ten thousand dollars56 million dollars373 thousand three hundred and nine dollars

  9. ▶ 1:24:37Mass Greenhouse TIF

    Eight-year tax exemption with a cap; the town expects new tax revenue.

    as heard:996 thousand six hundred dollars547 400450 000

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 2:51:08A quorum was challenged and counted by hand; the count was enough to continue and finish the last article.
  • ▶ 2:48:56Selectmen said they would look into the reported dump on town land.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The town has not published minutes for this meeting.

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 11:54warrant booklet page 25 slidewarrant article, shown
  • ▶ 21:52deferred projects page 26 in warrant bookletbudget document, shown
  • ▶ 1:30:48TIF agreement handoutcontract or agreement, shown
  • ▶ 2:02:04preliminary schematic plan handoutplan or drawing, shown
  • ▶ 2:29:22stormwater bylaw booklet markupdraft policy or bylaw, shown

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 16:53Ms. Adams asked how Article 1 relates to the street light money in Article 4.
  2. ▶ 28:26Presented the street light purchase and LED conversion savings. — dave flatt, as heard, chairman of the green team
  3. ▶ 37:20A resident, speaking at the microphone, worried the town could not give street lights back and would need a maintenance contractor.
  4. ▶ 46:07Asked what exactly is bought and whether solar could be added to the poles. — mike clark 275 crossroad, as heard
  5. ▶ 55:53Asked about the OPEB liability and noted the deposit was deferred in spring. — dave pacios 56 whiting street, as heard
  6. ▶ 1:00:06Explained his no vote on the fire contract: no plan to fund collective bargaining going forward. — peter beardmore 282 pleasant street, as heard
  7. ▶ 1:06:39Spoke in support of the fire contract and COVID risks to firefighters. — steve wright 118 mass ave, as heard, firefighter
  8. ▶ 1:21:36Confused about Article 14 and 15 wording. — nathan lockwood 91 main street, as heard
  9. ▶ 1:36:11Asked about job benefits and enforcement of the TIF job floor. — david feinberg, as heard
  10. ▶ 1:38:03Asked about blasting damage to neighbors. — john stella 11 maysfield road, as heard
  11. ▶ 1:41:14Asked whether cannabis could be grown and about electricity use for lights. — dave mc 384 townsend harbor road, as heard
  12. ▶ 1:43:20Called the TIF schedule generous and asked about water usage. — daryl plant 490 lancaster ave, as heard
  13. ▶ 1:45:09Opposed the TIF, citing senior citizens getting no tax breaks. — mike clark 275 cross road, as heard
  14. ▶ 1:46:53Said the TIF is excessive and there is no TIF policy; wanted more discussion. — chris menard 672 page street, as heard
  15. ▶ 1:52:35Urged a yes vote on the TIF so the jobs don't go elsewhere. — dave mackey 34 townsend harbor road, as heard
  16. ▶ 2:16:31Explained the transfer of a small island parcel to Conservation. — ken jones 50 valley road, as heard, vice chair of the conservation commission
  17. ▶ 2:20:19Questioned the road name in Article 19. — dave pacios 56 whiting street, as heard
  18. ▶ 2:32:59Objected that the stormwater bylaw burdens private homeowners with study costs; asked for the acre threshold to rise. — mackie 384 townsend harbor road, as heard
  19. ▶ 2:38:41Opposed the stormwater bylaw as intruding on property rights; described a trash dump on town land near a brook. — daryl plant 490 lancaster ave, as heard
  20. ▶ 2:47:51Asked the selectmen to investigate the reported dump. — hey mackey 384 townsend harbor road, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, ground rules, DPW director introduction, committee vacanciesinformational · 8:05 long
  2. ▶ 8:05Consent calendarvoted · 2:27 long · warrant article, budget
  3. ▶ 10:32Article 1 FY21 budget adjustmentsvoted · 9:35 long · transfers, budget, health insurance
  4. ▶ 20:07Article 2 deferred capital planvoted · 7:59 long · capital, facilities
  5. ▶ 28:06Article 4 street light purchasevoted · 21:12 long · capital, roads and dpw
  6. ▶ 49:18Articles 5-7 stabilization and OPEB depositsvoted · 8:44 long · budget, retirement
  7. ▶ 58:02Articles 8-9 collective bargaining agreementsvoted · 13:26 long · contracts and unions, public safety
  8. ▶ 1:11:28Articles 14-15 250 Howard Street conservation giftvoted · 13:09 long · planning and zoning, legal
  9. ▶ 1:24:37Article 16 TIF for Mass Greenhousevoted · 29:23 long · economic development, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:54:00Article 17 TC Passios design reportinformational · 21:20 long · facilities, capital
  11. ▶ 2:15:20Articles 18-19 land transfers to Conservationvoted · 9:53 long · planning and zoning
  12. ▶ 2:25:13Article 20 stormwater bylawvoted · 29:07 long · water sewer, planning and zoning, legal

What the captions could not carry

  • Article 17 vote on hearing the report is not in the captions.
  • Article 18 motion text was not captured.
  • Some individual vote counts were not stated.
  • Some figures in the street light and TIF discussion are garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 31:10Street light LED conversionWhat would buying the street lights from Unitil and converting to LED cost and save?
  • ▶ 1:34:00TIF tax exemption scheduleHow much tax would Mass Greenhouse be exempted from versus the new revenue the town gets?
  • ▶ 2:06:13TC Passios building costsWhat will the TC Passios consolidation cost once design development is done?already answered: thread:town-offices
  • ▶ 55:53OPEB trust depositsHow large is the OPEB liability and what is being deposited?

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What changed

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