What was said
Town Meeting, November 14, 2023
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The short version
- ▶ 1:19:13Town meeting voted down a transfer from the special purpose stabilization fund meant to reimburse ARPA-funded purchases of an ambulance and two dump trucks, 29-92.
- ▶ 10:59Town meeting approved FY24 budget adjustments, including a town clerk salary increase, 126-13, after residents objected that the raise had been discussed in executive session.
- ▶ 25:17Town meeting funded the first year of the clerical union contract, 132-11, after public comment that clerical wages lag comparable towns.
- ▶ 2:17:31Town meeting approved a transfer for ductless mini-split air conditioning at the primary school after voting down two amendments that would have tied the funding to a Green Communities grant.
- ▶ 3:23:02Several zoning bylaw changes passed by the required two-thirds margin, including a farm-definition update, common-driveway provisions, and solar parking canopy rules.
Why it matters — our reading
- The rejected transfer leaves the ambulance and dump-truck purchases without an approved funding source and keeps the special purpose stabilization fund at its current balance rather than drawing it down.
- The town clerk raise and the clerical union contract affect town payroll costs and, indirectly, what the town needs to raise going forward.
- The air-conditioning vote and the failed grant-first amendments determine whether primary-school cooling work proceeds now or waits on a separate grant application.
Watch next
- Whether the water supply protection bylaw (Article 9) returns to a future town meeting after being pursued over its map and notice
- How the town now funds the ambulance and dump-truck replacements after the stabilization-fund transfer failed
budgetcapitalcontracts and unionsfacilitiesgrantspersonnelplanning and zoningprimary schoolpublic commentpublic safetyrecreationtown departmentstransferswater sewer
Present: the moderator (town moderator); Mr Jeff (select board member); Mr Alonzo (select board member); Mr Franco (select board member); Miss Memy (select board member); Karen (Lemieux) (town manager); Town Counsel (unnamed) (town counsel); Mr Waters (finance committee member); Mr Gray (finance committee member); Dave Pasos (finance committee member); Chris Menard (finance committee member (absent, statement read)); Thomas G (chief of police); Carol as Amo (Ashmo) (school committee chair); Dr Burnham (superintendent); Matthew Brener (planning board chair); Richard Harris (interim land use director); Don Lockwood (parks commission chair); Dave Blad (green committee chair); Nancy Fosyasco (cemetery commissioner). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 10:38Consent calendar: Articles 2, 7 and 8 (prior year expenses $1,423.52; sewer enterprise retained earnings transfers of $1,851.30 and $534 to sewer stabilization funds) — moved by the moderator, as heardpassed by voice vote, more than 9/10 (one nay heard)
- ▶ 10:59Article 1: transfer/appropriate $319,000 for FY24 budget adjustments (reserve fund, salary reserve, town clerk salary) — moved by Mr Jeff, as heardpassed, 126-13 of 139
- ▶ 25:17Article 3: transfer $58,431 from salary reserve to fund year one of the clerical union (Council 93) contract — moved by Mr Alonzo, as heardpassed, 132-11
- ▶ 1:11:10Move the question to end debate on Article 4 — moved by Donald Gurney, as heardpassed, 114-24
- ▶ 1:19:13Article 4: transfer $986,000 from the special purpose stabilization fund for a new ambulance and two dump trucks — moved by Miss Memy, as heardfailed, 29-92
- ▶ 1:23:51Article 5: transfer $80,000 from the opioid settlement stabilization fund for the police mental-health co-response program — moved by Mr Jeff, as heardpassed (count not audible)
- ▶ 2:03:24Amendment to Article 6 requiring the school district to pursue a Green Communities grant (to completion) before spending the AC funds — moved by Dave Blad (amended by Rond Delissio), as hearddefeated (94% voted to close debate; amendment then failed)
- ▶ 2:15:45Second amendment to Article 6 requiring the district to return to town meeting if the funds do not cover 16 classrooms — moved by Rond Delissio, as hearddefeated
- ▶ 2:17:31Article 6: transfer $232,800 from the FY23 capital plan for ductless mini-split climate control systems at the primary school — moved by Mr Franco, as heardpassed, majority vote
- ▶ 2:57:52Select board internal vote to recommend approval of Article 9 (water supply protection bylaw rewrite) — moved by select board, as heardpassed, with Mr Franco abstaining
- ▶ 3:01:33Motion to pass over Article 9 (water supply protection district bylaw) to the next town meeting — moved by a resident from the floor, as heardnot audible
- ▶ 3:02:52Motion to pass over Article 10 — moved by unclear, as heardpassed (voice vote)
- ▶ 3:09:50Article 11: transfer $300,000 from the FY23 capital plan to repair a portion of the TC Pasos building roof — moved by Mr Alonzo, as heardpassed, majority vote (exact count garbled)
- ▶ 3:20:36Article 12: reauthorize $184,000 plus committed ARPA/state funds and deed restriction for the Marshall Park renovation, to qualify for a state grant — moved by Mr Franco (as printed), as heardpassed, required 2/3
- ▶ 3:23:02Article 13: amend zoning to align farm definition with state law — moved by Mr Franco, as heardpassed, required 2/3 (figures heard: "975 to 2.41")
- ▶ 3:44:08Article 14: amend common driveway bylaw provisions — moved by Mr Franco, as heardpassed by 2/3
- ▶ 4:04:58Article 15: add solar parking canopy provisions to commercial and office/industrial zoning districts — moved by Mr Alonzo, as heardpassed, required 2/3
- ▶ 4:07:06Article 16: amend large-scale ground-mounted solar definition to exempt solar parking canopies — moved by unclear (select board member), as heardpassed, 2/3 (91.8% heard)
Transfers
| at | what moved | amount, as heard | outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| ▶ 9:55 | Sewer enterprise retained earnings to sewer reserve capacity stabilization fund | $1,851 30 | voted (consent calendar) |
| ▶ 10:18 | Sewer enterprise retained earnings to sewer inflow infiltration stabilization fund | $534 | voted (consent calendar) |
| ▶ 10:59 | General fund to reserve fund, salary reserve, and town clerk salary lines (Article 1) | $319,000 ($200,000 / $99,000 / $20,000) | voted, passed |
| ▶ 25:17 | Salary reserve line to fund clerical union contract year one (Article 3) | $58,4 313 / $58,431 | voted, passed |
| ▶ 37:38 | Special purpose stabilization fund to ambulance and dump truck purchases (Article 4) | $986,000 | voted, failed |
| ▶ 1:20:43 | Opioid settlement stabilization fund to police mental health co-response program (Article 5) | $80,000 | voted, passed |
| ▶ 1:41:38 | FY23 capital plan to Lunenburg school district for primary school ductless split AC systems (Article 6) | $232,800 | voted, passed |
| ▶ 3:03:35 | FY23 capital plan (Hazardous Materials abatement surplus) to TC Pasos building roof repair (Article 11) | $300,000 | voted, passed |
The money
- ▶ 9:51Article 2 (prior year expenses)
Consent calendar item to raise and appropriate funds to pay a prior year's expenses.
as heard:$1,423 52 cents
- ▶ 12:29Cherry sheet/state assessment offset
Town manager said the finalized state budget changed the Cherry sheet offset and state assessment beyond the annual town meeting estimate.
as heard:$55,669 84
- ▶ 13:06Salary reserve fund adjustment
Town manager described the salary reserve increase to cover wage adjustments including the clerical union and future non-union adjustments; figure differs from the motion's stated line amount.
as heard:999,000
- ▶ 19:01Town clerk pay comp analysis
Select board member said a comp analysis found the town clerk underpaid relative to comparable towns.
as heard:30s something percentalmost 40
- ▶ 28:06Article 3 clerical union contract cost
Town manager gave the projected cost impact of the three-year clerical union contract.
as heard:$58,4 31$74,400$61,500
- ▶ 26:42Clerical union wage comparison
Town manager said current clerical wages are below the average of comparable towns surveyed.
as heard:8% to 20%
- ▶ 40:22ARPA funds diverted for vehicles vs abatements
Select board member said the $986,000 plus more was diverted from the capital plan to fund tax abatements instead.
as heard:986300 something
- ▶ 41:25Total ARPA award to Lunenburg
Town received ARPA/CLFRF funds from the state's larger allocation.
as heard:$350 billion8.7 billion3.4 billion3.5 million
- ▶ 43:06Town capital investment from strong finances
Town manager described record capital investment years attributed to conservative budgeting rather than ARPA revenue loss.
as heard:1.68 million2.16 million
- ▶ 44:29ARPA nonprofit support
Select board committed ARPA funds to the food pantry and Boys and Girls Club.
as heard:$20,000$775,000
- ▶ 44:50ARPA overtime/meeting costs
Committed funds for overtime-related costs, remote meeting costs, and public safety equipment.
as heard:$15,246.86$692$507
- ▶ 45:52ARPA water district PFAS work
Committed funds to the water district for PFAS education, a master plan and treatment pilot.
as heard:$285,000
- ▶ 46:14ARPA sewer manhole covers
Committed funds to replace sewer manhole covers.
as heard:$100,000
- ▶ 46:14ARPA program management consulting
Hired a company to help manage ARPA compliance.
as heard:$60,000
- ▶ 47:16ARPA lost-revenue standard allowance
Town used the standard allowance under federal rules to spend ARPA funds on general government services.
as heard:$10 million
- ▶ 47:56ARPA general government commitments
List of ARPA-funded projects: tax abatement support, assessors, camera system, Marshall Park, athletic survey, sidewalks, culture council, library teen room, library exterior, memorial gardens, municipal building design committee.
as heard:$150,000$30,000$81,500a million dollar$50,000$101,00022,500120,00060,00010,000225,000
- ▶ 49:01Article 4 net effect on ARPA availability
Select board said passing Article 4 would return $986,000 to ARPA for further water/sewer and community investment.
as heard:$986,000
- ▶ 1:02:22Special purpose stabilization fund balance
Town manager gave the current balance in response to a question, figure rendered inconsistently in captions.
as heard:2.19 960222.62.96
- ▶ 1:04:52Cemetery tree life-cycle cost
Cemetery commissioner said maintaining aging trees versus a stone wall would cost the town a stated amount by year 50.
as heard:$629,000
- ▶ 1:20:42Article 5 opioid co-response funding
Transfer from the opioid settlement stabilization fund to fund the police department's mental health co-response program, contingent on Lancaster reimbursing half.
as heard:$80,000
- ▶ 1:23:09Co-response program vendor quote
Chief said the quote to start the program came in at a stated amount, pending a state grant.
as heard:$79,200
- ▶ 55:55Prior HVAC redesign cost estimate
Superintendent said a full building HVAC redesign came back far too costly to pursue, prompting the mini-split alternative.
as heard:$ 7,984 35
- ▶ 1:40:37Green Communities grant savings example
Green committee chair cited town savings from a streetlight upgrade project funded through Green Communities.
as heard:$40,000 a year$55,000 a year
- ▶ 3:16:48Marshall Park funding totals
Parks chair said a yes vote brings total non-tax funding for Marshall Park to one level versus a lower level with a no vote.
as heard:$1.6 million1.1 million
- ▶ 3:13:18Marshall Park engineering appropriation (prior year)
Recap of last year's appropriation for Marshall Park schematic design/engineering.
as heard:$184,000
- ▶ 3:15:23Marshall Park pending state grant
Parks chair said a pending grant requires this article's formal commitment language to qualify.
as heard:half a million dollar$200,000
- ▶ 3:22:42Article 13 farm definition threshold
Proposed bylaw change ties farm status to acreage or revenue per acre.
as heard:$1,000 per acre
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 1:43:00Town counsel ruled the green-grant amendment to Article 6 was within scope but had to specify a fixed dollar amount rather than "up to" a figure.
- ▶ 2:34:17Town counsel found sufficient legal notice had been given for Article 9's map because it referenced the map on file with the town clerk.
- ▶ 3:37:31A motion to pass over Article 14 died for lack of a second, so debate and a vote on the article continued.
Public comment
- ▶ 13:49objects to select board raising the town clerk's pay in executive session — Rond Delissio, as heard, resident, 181 Reservoir Road
- ▶ 15:12echoes concern that town clerk pay decision was handled behind closed doors
- ▶ 28:53says clerical union employees are underpaid; wages should come from stabilization funds, not projects — John Bowen, as heard, resident, 162 Highland Street
- ▶ 49:42asks whether a newspaper ad implies the cemetery wall/trees vote is happening tonight — Dave McDonald, as heard, resident, Island Road
- ▶ 54:11Reservoir Road resident (Ron Delissio) says the $986,000 ambulance/truck purchase was well spent but worries about draining the stabilization fund
- ▶ 54:58asks finance committee to explain its position on Article 4 — Joan Pce (Peters), as heard, resident, 11 Wintergreen Court
- ▶ 1:01:59asks what the special purpose stabilization fund balance would be after the transfer — Terry Birfield, as heard, resident, One Road/Garden Lane
- ▶ 1:03:27clarifies there was no behind-the-scenes deal on a cemetery wall; explains life-cycle cost of trees vs a stone wall — Nancy Fosyasco, as heard, cemetery commissioner, 146 West Townsend Road
- ▶ 1:07:42urges vote for Article 4, notes no one disputes the vehicles are needed — Mike Bon, as heard, resident, 26 Courtland Circle
- ▶ 1:08:44explains ARPA funds allow projects that would never be funded through the normal capital process — Don Lockwood, as heard, chair, Parks Commission, 91 Main Street
- ▶ 1:25:33presents history of the primary school air conditioning project — Carol as Amo (Ashmo), as heard, chair, school committee, 662 Page Street
- ▶ 1:32:45objects that the HVAC project scope shrank from the whole building without coming back to town meeting first — Rond Delissio, as heard, resident, 181 Reservoir Road
- ▶ 1:35:39presents cooling-degree-day data showing rising need for AC at the primary school — Anthony Scalabrini, as heard, construction engineer, resident, 5 Valley Road
- ▶ 1:38:53describes children and staff suffering in the heat at the primary school — Mary Braithway, as heard, school staff, 204 Northfield Road
- ▶ 1:39:56proposes requiring the school pursue a Green Communities grant before spending the AC funds — Dave Blad, as heard, chair, green committee, 411 Goodward Street
- ▶ 1:44:04describes years of heat in the school and urges funding the project — Nancy Chapman, as heard, retired primary school teacher, 102 Fairview Road
- ▶ 1:45:56urges against the grant-first amendment due to delay risk — Paula Bertram, as heard, resident, 312 Townsend Road
- ▶ 1:51:32describes the process delay and urges passing the article without the grant amendment — a Waters/parent speaker, as heard
- ▶ 2:08:38criticizes mini-splits as a band-aid fix to the primary school HVAC problem — Dave Pasos, as heard, resident/committee member, 56 Wedding Street
- ▶ 2:12:11argues individual mini-split control is better than a rooftop system — Mike Clark, as heard, resident, 275 Crossroad
- ▶ 2:31:38resident argues the Article 9 map is illegible and proper notice was not given
- ▶ 2:34:59opposes Article 9, cites unreadable map, no compensation to affected property owners, and questions town authority — Daryl Plant, as heard, resident, 490 Lancaster Ave
- ▶ 2:39:48asks whose map this is and whether future DEP changes would affect the town's bylaw — John Fortune, as heard, resident, 50 Hemlock Drive
- ▶ 2:43:00asks about small red circles on the map near Stillman's Farm and Cherry Hill — Bob P., as heard, resident, 11 Wintergreen Court
- ▶ 2:45:05identifies the red circles as small public water supplies — John [Fortune], as heard
- ▶ 2:45:25raises concerns about map legibility and asks the planning board to pull Article 9 to the next town meeting — Joan Pce (Peters), as heard, resident, 11 Wintergreen Court
- ▶ 2:46:15asks whether site plan approval creates a large paperwork burden for simple projects — Mike Clark, as heard, resident, 275 Crossroad
- ▶ 2:58:13asks that the clicker vote record on the Article 9 pass-over motion not be displayed — Carol as Amo (Ashmo), as heard
- ▶ 2:59:57supports postponing Article 9 to the next town meeting — Matthew Allison, as heard, planning board member, 188 Flat Hill
- ▶ 3:06:59finance committee reads Chris Menard's note opposing Article 11 as money for a building likely to be replaced
- ▶ 3:07:41supports Article 11 roof repair given a 10-year building transition timeline — Matthew Allison, as heard, municipal building design committee member, 188 Flat Hill
- ▶ 3:11:56notes a numbering error between the warrant index and Article 12 — Carol Hatch, as heard, resident, 41 Hilltop Lane
- ▶ 3:37:02questions whether the common-driveway bylaw increases buildable lots — Jennifer Duffy, as heard, resident, 684 Flat Hill Road
- ▶ 3:39:16asks about impacts of common driveways on easements and new property owners — Kim Duffy, as heard, resident, 1479 Mass Ave
- ▶ 3:52:08questions whether the solar canopy bylaw's size definition conflicts with state large-scale solar definitions — Mike Clark, as heard, resident, 275 Crossroad
- ▶ 3:57:46asks how the town benefits from solar canopies and who owns the power generated — Kim Duffy, as heard, resident, 1479 Mass Ave
- ▶ 3:59:58asks why the solar canopy bylaw excludes residential properties — Dave Blad, as heard, green committee chair
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- planning and zoning89 min · 42%
- budget84 min · 40%
- capital74 min · 35%
- public safety47 min · 22%
- water sewer44 min · 21%
- transfers32 min · 15%
- facilities28 min · 13%
- primary school21 min · 10%
- economic development21 min · 10%
- personnel14 min · 7%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:08Call to order, pledge, volunteer recruitment, electronic voting demonstration, meeting ground rules, and consent calendar (Articles 2, 7, 8)consent calendar passed by voice vote · 10:50 long · transfers, budget
- ▶ 10:59Article 1: FY24 budget adjustments including a town clerk salary increase, and debate over the select board's use of executive session to discuss itpassed 126-13 · 13:57 long · budget, personnel, transfers
- ▶ 25:17Article 3: funding the first year of the clerical union (Council 93) collective bargaining agreementpassed 132-11 · 11:59 long · contracts and unions, budget
- ▶ 37:27Article 4: transferring $986,000 from the special purpose stabilization fund for an ambulance and two dump trucks, with extensive discussion of ARPA fund uses and prioritiesfailed 29-92 · 42:56 long · budget, capital, public safety
- ▶ 1:20:23Article 5: funding a police department mental health co-response program from opioid settlement fundspassed · 4:07 long · budget, public safety
- ▶ 1:57:58Article 6: funding ductless mini-split climate control systems at the primary school, including two failed amendments tying funding to a Green Communities grantarticle passed; both amendments defeated · 20:31 long · primary school, facilities, capital
- ▶ 2:18:50Article 9: comprehensive rewrite of the Water Supply Protection District zoning bylaw and map, debated over map legibility, notice, and scope of town authoritymotion made to pass over to next town meeting; outcome not clearly audible · 43:40 long · planning and zoning, water sewer
- ▶ 3:02:52Article 10passed over by voice vote; subject not stated in captions · 0:23 long · warrant article
- ▶ 3:03:15Article 11: transferring capital plan surplus to repair the TC Pasos building roofpassed · 7:16 long · facilities, town departments, transfers
- ▶ 3:10:51Article 12: formal commitments required to secure a state grant for the Marshall Park renovationpassed, required 2/3 · 10:06 long · recreation, grants, capital
- ▶ 3:21:17Article 13: amending the zoning bylaw's farm definition to comply with state lawpassed · 2:05 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 3:23:43Article 14: amending the common driveway provisions of the protective bylawpassed by 2/3 · 20:46 long · planning and zoning
- ▶ 3:44:49Article 15: allowing solar parking canopies in commercial and office/industrial zoning districtspassed, required 2/3 · 20:30 long · planning and zoning, economic development
- ▶ 4:05:39Article 16: exempting solar parking canopies from the large-scale ground-mounted solar bylaw definition, and meeting adjournmentpassed; meeting adjourned automatically after final article · 2:03 long · planning and zoning
What the captions could not carry
- The vote count/outcome on the motion to pass over Article 9 (water supply protection bylaw) around 10893-10950 is garbled.
- The subject matter of Article 10 is never stated in the captions before it was passed over.
- The exact vote count for Article 5 (opioid co-response funding) is not clearly stated, only that it "passed."
- The exact vote count for Article 11 (TC Pasos roof) is rendered inconsistently ("1188", "11.96%") and cannot be reliably read.
- The percentages given for the Article 13 vote ("975 to 2.41") are not a coherent vote count.
- The special purpose stabilization fund balance figure is rendered inconsistently ("2.19 96022", "2.6", "2.96") and cannot be confirmed.
- The salary reserve figure in the Article 1 motion ($99,000) does not match the town manager's stated figure ($999,000); which is correct is not resolvable from captions.
- Some names throughout (e.g., "Miss Memy," the town manager's surname, the police chief's surname) are likely mangled by the caption model.
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