What was said

Zoning Board of Appeals, August 28, 2024

the recording · 1:02 long, about 8,269 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. No minutes have been published; the recording is the only record, and what follows is a guide to it.

The short version

  1. ▶ 11:51The Zoning Board of Appeals granted a special permit for relief from the one-year waiting period for occupancy of an accessory dwelling unit on Townsen Street.
  2. ▶ 45:28The board granted a special permit for dimensional variations at 12 Sunset Lane, on conditions: Board of Health compliance, a revised engineering plan, and the building placed where it stood before.
  3. ▶ 50:17Members agreed to bring a proposal on application fees and abutter notification to a vote at the next meeting; it was not voted because the item was not posted.
  4. ▶ 53:43Members asked staff to go back to town counsel about a modest fee increase and to bring comparable-town fee information to the next meeting.
  5. ▶ 1:01:02The board agreed to accept an alternate member's resignation and send a thank-you notice.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The fee proposal would shift advertising and mailing costs for abutter notices onto applicants, which touches what a homeowner pays to apply for a variance or special permit.
  • Counsel advised that fees cannot be raised for revenue purposes, so any increase has to be justified by the cost of the process, not by the town's budget needs.

Watch next

  • The fee and abutter-notification proposal returns for a vote at the next ZBA meeting, once it is posted.
  • Staff are to bring town counsel's view on a modest fee increase and comparable-town fee information to the next meeting.

feeshousingpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departments

Present: Alfred gel (chair); Lisa nman (board secretary); James bakosi (member); Hans winr (member); David Blatt (member); Patrick Callahan (member); Tony necastro (member); Don gurny (member); Brian (Building Commissioner (referred to, not clearly present)). 1 of 9 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 11:51Grant a special permit for relief from the one-year waiting period for occupancy of the accessory dwelling unit at 615 Townsen Street.passed (roll call of ayes heard; individual count not clear in captions)
  2. ▶ 45:28Approve the special permit/dimensional variations at 12 Sunset Lane on conditions: comply with Board of Health requirements, submit a revised engineering plan, and locate the building exactly where it was before with the same variances as 2021.passed (roll call of ayes heard; individual count not clear in captions)

And 1 procedural: adjourn. (▶ 1:01:43).

The money

  1. ▶ 49:37ZBA application filing fee

    The current filing fee has long been the same, with an extra per-abutter charge past a threshold, and does not cover advertising and postage. Counsel advised fees cannot be raised for revenue purposes.

    as heard:$100$2 over and above for each person12

  2. ▶ 50:37Newspaper advertising cost

    The Ledger charges per ad, run two weeks before a hearing; the proposal is that the applicant prepay advertising.

    as heard:$40 per ad

  3. ▶ 53:22Possible fee increase

    Members suggested asking counsel about a modest increase, possibly higher for commercial; the fee has not changed in about 26 years.

    as heard:26 years125

  4. ▶ 54:05ZBA budget

    The secretary said the board's total budget is small and mostly payroll and postage.

    as heard:$3500

  5. ▶ 56:33Comparable town fees

    Surrounding towns' fees were reviewed; the highest seen was for a final filing, and most are roughly in a range near the current fee.

    as heard:$300100 150

  6. ▶ 58:37Recent large application postage

    A recent application with many abutters cost the town substantial postage and exceeded the base fee.

    as heard:71$218$100 in Postage69 cents

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 50:17Proposal agreed to be brought for a vote at the next meeting: keep the filing fee the same for commercial and residential, applicant prepays advertising online, and applicant supplies stamped envelopes for abutter notices. Not voted tonight because the item was not posted.
  • ▶ 53:01Secretary to raise with the town the idea of tablets to use the online portal instead of printed packets.
  • ▶ 53:43Members asked staff to go back to town counsel about a modest fee increase and to bring comparable-town fee information to the next meeting.
  • ▶ 1:01:02Board agreed to accept an alternate member's resignation and send a thank-you notice.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 44:28A surveyor from the engineering firm that did the original work said the foundation location was staked to match the approved plan and would be monitored, and that the garage room is not shown as a bedroom on the plans. — a speaker, surveyor/engineer for the applicant
  2. ▶ 45:08Chair asked for further public comment in the room and on Zoom; no one else spoke.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening, hearing procedure and introductionsinformational · 2:00 long
  2. ▶ 1:42Reading of petition for 615 Townsen Street ADU occupancy waiting-period reliefinformational · 2:48 long · planning and zoning, housing
  3. ▶ 4:30Applicant and board questions on 615 Townsen Street petitiondiscussed · 7:45 long · planning and zoning, housing
  4. ▶ 11:51Vote and post-decision notices for Townsen Street petitionvoted, granted · 2:16 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 14:07Reading of 12 Sunset Lane special permit applicationinformational · 3:08 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 17:1512 Sunset Lane: demolition without permit, grandfathering, septic bedroom count, footprintdiscussed · 26:52 long · planning and zoning, legal
  7. ▶ 44:07Public comment on Sunset Laneinformational · 1:21 long · public comment, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 45:28Sunset Lane motion, vote and post-decision instructionsvoted, granted with conditions · 3:25 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 48:53Application fees, online portal and abutter notification proposaldiscussed; vote deferred to next meeting · 11:27 long · fees, town departments, planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:00:20Alternate member resignationaccepted by agreement; thank-you notice to be sent · 1:23 long · personnel
  11. ▶ 1:01:43Adjournmentvoted · 0:21 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts and names of members voting on all motions: only 'I' responses are rendered.
  • The exact assessor map and some figures in the first petition are garbled.
  • Exact fee figures and the amount of the secretary's time cost are unclear.
  • Name and details of the resigning alternate beyond 'Steve D' are garbled.
  • The captions start mid-sentence at the beginning.

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