What was said

Cemetery Commission, June 25, 2026

the recording · 1:54 long, about 16,314 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:50:47Commission voted to raise cemetery lot and burial/cremation opening fees, effective July 1, 2026 -- the first increase in years.
  2. ▶ 1:02:25Commission committed funding, the amount as heard, from the sale-of-lots fund toward the North Cemetery back-lot expansion, to go out to bid.
  3. ▶ 1:13:03Commission approved payment for headstone correction and engraving work, including marking an unmarked 1864 burial found in South Cemetery.
  4. ▶ 18:55A decision on dropping a duplicate cemetery software license was postponed to the next meeting so the vendor bill could be broken out.
  5. ▶ 1:19:23A veteran's family asked to return two North Cemetery lots for a veterans'-cemetery burial instead; the board asked for the request in writing before deciding on any refund.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Anyone planning to buy a cemetery lot or a burial/cremation opening in Lunenburg will pay the new, higher fee starting July 1, 2026.
  • The back-lot expansion is funded from the sale-of-lots fund rather than the town's general tax levy, and is meant to add burial capacity before winter.
  • The postponed software decision and the lot-return request both return to the commission's next meeting, on July 30.

Watch next

  • Next Cemetery Commission meeting, July 30, 2026, 6:00 p.m. -- expected to resolve the Sims Cloud software license question
  • Written return request from the Asco family on two North Cemetery lots, to be reviewed before a refund decision

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Present: Todd Holman (DPW Director / cemetery superintendent); Dave (commissioner); Donna (commissioner); Latonya (commissioner (name heard once; may be same person as "Donna")); Mike (commissioner (works with town financial/Munis figures)); Bill (commissioner or town finance official (unclear which)); Don Landry (commissioner (named by another commissioner as having attended the flag ceremony)); the Chair (chair (never named on the record)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 1:02:25Commit up to $45,000 (from the sale-of-lots fund) toward the North Cemetery back-lot expansion project to go out to bidpassed
  2. ▶ 1:13:03Approve payment of $3,500 to Limestone/Leavitt Stone Monument for headstone correction, cleaning and engraving work, including the unmarked 1864 burial found in South Cemeterypassed
  3. ▶ 1:50:47Set new fees effective July 1, 2026: one-grave lot at $1,200 ($2,400 for the standard two-lot sale), full-body burial opening at $500, cremation opening at $300, and the second niche-wall opening at $300 (first opening still free)passed

And 4 procedural: accept the april 23, 2026 meeting minutes as amended (name corrected "mike" to "richard," word corrected from "champion" to "coordinate") (▶ 5:21); accept the minutes of attending the hazen memorial library (shirley cemetery) forum on natural burial (▶ 6:32); approve the june 5, 2026 north cemetery meeting minutes (▶ 8:32); adjourn the meeting at 7:56 p.m. (▶ 1:53:49).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 5 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a summary.

  1. differswhat work the $3,500 invoice/headstone fix covers▶ 1:13:03

    recording Approve payment of $3,500 to Limestone/Leavitt Stone Monument for headstone correction, cleaning and engraving work, including the unmarked 1864 burial found in South Cemetery

    town’s minutes “Todd Holman discussed fixing the Levi Jr. headstone at the Fich Street Cemetery.”

    Ours ties the invoice to an unmarked 1864 burial in South Cemetery; official separately records a Levi Jr. headstone fix at Fich (Fitch) Street Cemetery. Check the recording/invoice to confirm which cemetery and whose headstone the $3,500 actually paid for.

  2. differswhether the $750/$450 sale-of-lots/perpetual-care split was voted on▶ 1:36:24

    recording Proposed re-splitting of the new $1,200 lot fee between the sale-of-lots and perpetual-care accounts (previously $500/$300 split on the $800 fee) — discussed only, pending confirmation from the town ("Marilyn")

    town’s minutes “$1200.00 $750.00 to Sale of lots Fund, $450.00 to Perpetual Care Fund”

    Official records the $750/$450 split as part of the fee motion that passed (AIF); ours records the split as still pending town confirmation. Check whether the split was actually finalized at this meeting or is still awaiting confirmation.

  3. differsresolution of the Sims Cloud licensing discussion▶ 18:55

    recording Postpone the Sims Cloud/burial-search software license discussion to the next meeting so the vendor bill could be broken out.

    town’s minutes “Mike Clark to find out through Brandon Fiinley. Donna Landry to contact Brandon Finley and get a breakdown on costs.”

    Ours records a formal postponement to the next meeting; official records specific follow-up assignments (Mike Clark and Donna Landry each to contact Brandon Finley) with no explicit 'postponed' language. Check the recording for how the item was actually left.

  4. differsseasonal/part-time cemetery staffing count▶ 1:05:36

    recording 19

    town’s minutes “DPW currently has 3 part time workers, and a volunteer, and also receives assistance from participants from the Worcester County Sheriƒ’s Oƒice Community Service Program.”

    Ours captions a figure of 19 in this discussion; official states 3 part-time workers plus a volunteer and Sheriff's-office community-service participants. Check the recording for what '19' actually referred to, since it does not match the official headcount.

  5. differscommissioner named as having attended the flag ceremony

    recording Don Landry (commissioner (named by another commissioner as having attended the flag ceremony))

    town’s minutes “Mike Clark gave recognition and appreciation to John Bowen Jr., Todd Holman, The Scouts, Marines, Bill Barnard and the Cemetery commission for their eƒorts in Flag Burning Day.”

    No 'Don Landry' appears in the official attendee list; the person credited for Flag Day in the official minutes is Bill Barnard. Check the recording — this may be a mishearing of that name, or an attendee the official minutes omitted.

7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • monument vendor name on the $3,500 invoice:Limestone/Leavitt Stone Monument→Leominster Monument▶ 1:13:03
  • Sims Cloud annual maintenance cost:$2,691→$2,961▶ 14:05
  • Todd Holman's title:Todd Holman (DPW Director / cemetery superintendent)→Cemetery Superintendent (the DPW Director is a separate person, Bill Bernard)
  • attendee 'Dave':Dave (commissioner)→David Dorren
  • attendee 'Latonya':Latonya (commissioner (name heard once; may be same person as "Donna"))→Donna Landry
  • attendee 'Mike':Mike (commissioner (works with town financial/Munis figures))→Mike Clark
  • attendee 'Bill':Bill (commissioner or town finance official (unclear which))→Bill Bernard
In one record only: 10 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — $20,000 previously pulled from sale-of-lots capital for South Cemetery gravestone straightening: Approximately $20,000 previously pulled from the sale-of-lots capital money to cover South Cemetery gravestone straightening work ▶ 41:51
  • Recording only — account number for the $3,500 monument invoice: $3,500 Limestone Monument invoice paid out of the sale-of-lots account (referenced as account 8115) ▶ 1:14:23
  • Recording only — range of contractor bid figures discussed for the back-lot expansion: 62,000, just under 79,000, 50,000, 15,000, 35,000, 35 to 40,000, approximately 40,000, 78,000, up to 45k, 45 thousand dollars ▶ 41:31
  • Recording only — perpetual care and sale-of-lots fund balances: 241K, 106,000, 106, -7,500, 300 per lot, 14,700, 500 per lot, 10,000, 1,700, 1,400, 10k, 241 ▶ 53:22
  • Recording only — additional figures discussed while setting new fees: 800, 1750, 600, 1,200, 2,400, 200, 500, 100, 300, 1,000, $500 ▶ 1:23:05
  • Recording only — request by the Asco family to return two North Cemetery lots: Return of two North Cemetery lots (Asco family): 25 years, 5 years, 12 hundred ▶ 1:19:23
  • Recording only — researching vault-burial requirements and natural burial rules: Look into whether Massachusetts law and Lunenburg's own rules currently require burial in a vault, and research natural burial rules through the Massachusetts Cemetery Association before proceeding. ▶ 30:46
  • Recording only — target timeline for putting the expansion out to bid: Try to get the back-lot expansion project out to bid within about a month and completed before winter. ▶ 42:33
  • Recording only — accepting donated trees to reduce expansion contract cost: Accept donated trees (dogwood, red maple) to reduce the tree-removal cost in the expansion contract. ▶ 46:24
  • Recording only — date/time of next meeting: Next meeting set for July 30 at 6:00 p.m., to include wrapping up the Sims software question. ▶ 1:54:10
  • Town’s minutes only — public comment thanking the commission: “Dave Rodgers, of 82 Highland Street came to meeting to thank all for the upkeep of the cemetery and its improvement.”
  • Town’s minutes only — recognition for Flag Burning Day efforts: “Mike Clark gave recognition and appreciation to John Bowen Jr., Todd Holman, The Scouts, Marines, Bill Barnard and the Cemetery commission for their eƒorts in Flag Burning Day.”
  • Town’s minutes only — discussion of posting Commission messages on Facebook/Discussing Lunenburg: “Discussed some of the issues and concerns on how to get messages out and posted from the Cemetery Commission on FB and Discussing Lunenburg.”
  • Town’s minutes only — attendee John Bowen Jr.: “Mike Clark gave recognition and appreciation to John Bowen Jr., Todd Holman, The Scouts, Marines, Bill Barnard and the Cemetery commission for their eƒorts in Flag Burning Day.”

Compared 2026-09-28. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 41:51Approximately $20,000 previously pulled from the sale-of-lots capital money to cover South Cemetery gravestone straightening work20,000discussed only (already done)
▶ 1:02:46Up to $45,000 from the sale-of-lots fund committed toward the back-lot expansion bid45,000voted
▶ 1:14:23$3,500 Limestone Monument invoice paid out of the sale-of-lots account (referenced as account 8115)3,500voted
▶ 1:36:24Proposed re-splitting of the new $1,200 lot fee between the sale-of-lots and perpetual-care accounts (previously $500/$300 split on the $800 fee)750 and 450 / 800 and 400discussed only, pending confirmation from the town ("Marilyn")

The money

  1. ▶ 14:05Sims Cloud / burial-search software annual renewal

    The invoice covers cloud annual maintenance and burial-search hosting; Todd Holman argued the commission is paying extra for a "view-only" second license it does not need since he already has full access on his own computer, aside from death certificates and DD-214s. The item was postponed to the next meeting so the vendor bill could be broken out and checked.

    as heard:$2,69114911,200$1,200twenty two whatever it is20$2,000

  2. ▶ 41:31North Cemetery back-lot expansion bid (Della Sorell/Delson Roy)

    The contractor's estimate was negotiated down by reducing the area and depth of the work; the commission discussed how much of its capital funds versus commission (sale-of-lots) money would cover it before committing to go to bid.

    as heard:62,000just under 79,00050,00015,00035,00035 to 40,000approximately 40,00078,000up to 45k45 thousand dollars

  3. ▶ 53:22Perpetual care and sale-of-lots fund balances

    The board walked through the Munis account rows line by line to confirm the perpetual care principal and sale-of-lots cash available before committing money to the expansion.

    as heard:241K106,000106-7,500300 per lot14,700500 per lot10,0001,7001,40010k241

  4. ▶ 1:05:36Seasonal/part-time cemetery staffing

    Several seasonal hire candidates were interviewed and two were not ratified by the select board before a third accepted; a prior part-time worker returned and a new hire ("Mike Jr.") was in process. Hours must stay under a cap so the town does not have to provide health insurance.

    as heard:19

  5. ▶ 1:12:02Limestone/Leavitt Stone Monument invoice

    The bill covers correcting a headstone naming error, cleaning and engraving, and marking an unmarked 1864 burial found in South Cemetery; funded from the sale-of-lots account.

    as heard:3,500250500300

  6. ▶ 1:23:05Cemetery lot and burial fee increase

    The board compared its current fees to nearby towns (e.g. Groton) and agreed the current price is well below market, raising the one-lot price, the full-body and cremation opening fees, and the second niche-wall opening fee effective July 1, while leaving the Saturday service fee (which goes to the town's general fund, not the commission) unchanged.

    as heard:80017506001,2002,4002005001003001,000$500

  7. ▶ 1:19:23Return of two North Cemetery lots (Asco family)

    A veteran's family with two North Cemetery lots asked to return them for a veterans' cemetery burial instead; the board discussed refunding at or near the original purchase price versus retaining perpetual-care money, depending on how long the lots were held.

    as heard:25 years5 years12 hundred

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 18:55Postpone the Sims Cloud/burial-search software license discussion to the next meeting so the vendor bill could be broken out.
  • ▶ 30:46Look into whether Massachusetts law and Lunenburg's own rules currently require burial in a vault, and research natural burial rules through the Massachusetts Cemetery Association before proceeding.
  • ▶ 32:51Todd Holman to find out from local funeral directors what winter mausoleum rental for bodies might be worth, as possible revenue.
  • ▶ 42:33Try to get the back-lot expansion project out to bid within about a month and completed before winter.
  • ▶ 46:24Accept donated trees (dogwood, red maple) to reduce the tree-removal cost in the expansion contract.
  • ▶ 1:22:24Ask the Asco family to put their return request for two North Cemetery lots in writing (email/letter) before the board decides on a refund amount.
  • ▶ 1:54:10Next meeting set for July 30 at 6:00 p.m., to include wrapping up the Sims software question.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 9:15Praised the recent improvement in cemetery mowing and holiday upkeep after past complaints, and reported his flag stand's flag was stolen and replaced, dropping off a worn flag for disposal. — Dave Rogers, as heard, resident, 82 Highland Street
  2. ▶ 12:20A commissioner (not public) thanked John Bowen Jr., Todd Holman and Bill Bernard for the flag/ceremony event, and suggested advertising future ceremonies on the Discussing Lunenburg social media page — not floor public comment.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:46Call to order, remote-meeting notice, Pledge of Allegianceprocedural · 1:23 long
  2. ▶ 2:09Review and approval of April 23, 2026 meeting minutes, with name/word correctionsvoted · 3:32 long · policy
  3. ▶ 6:12Approval of Hazen Memorial Library (Shirley) forum attendance minutesvoted · 0:40 long
  4. ▶ 6:53Approval of June 5, 2026 North Cemetery meeting minutes, noting a dollar-figure discrepancy between two sets of minutesvoted · 1:59 long · budget, capital
  5. ▶ 8:52Public comment: praise for cemetery upkeep, stolen/replaced flaginformational · 3:06 long · public comment
  6. ▶ 11:58Board comment thanking organizers of the flag ceremony; suggestion to promote future events on social mediainformational · 2:07 long · policy
  7. ▶ 14:05Sims Cloud/burial-search software invoice and duplicate view-only licensetabled to next meeting · 15:17 long · fees, technology, contracts and unions
  8. ▶ 29:22Report on the Shirley Cemetery natural-burial forum and whether Lunenburg should allow itinformational, further research directed · 11:49 long · policy, facilities
  9. ▶ 41:11DPW report: North Cemetery back-lot expansion bid, tree removal, and funding commitmentvoted · 21:35 long · capital, facilities, roads and dpw
  10. ▶ 47:26Walkthrough of perpetual-care and sale-of-lots fund balancesinformational · 12:54 long · budget, transfers
  11. ▶ 1:03:30Seasonal cemetery help: hiring, prisoner work program, volunteerinformational · 3:46 long · hiring, staffing, personnel
  12. ▶ 1:07:16Leavitt/Limestone Stone Monument invoice, including a headstone naming correctionvoted · 6:11 long · budget, facilities
  13. ▶ 1:13:48Cherry Hill/Clover Hill cemetery history aside; dry water spigots at North and South Cemetery during droughtinformational · 5:35 long · facilities, water sewer
  14. ▶ 1:19:23Request to return two North Cemetery lots (veteran's family)no formal resolution; letter requested · 3:42 long · policy, fees
  15. ▶ 1:23:05Setting new cemetery lot, burial, cremation and niche-wall fees effective July 1, 2026voted · 28:02 long · fees, budget, policy
  16. ▶ 1:51:07Grandfathering existing waitlist customers at the old $800 price before the increase takes effectinformational · 2:42 long · fees, policy
  17. ▶ 1:53:49Setting next meeting date and adjournmentprocedural · 0:41 long

What the captions could not carry

  • The commission members' exact names and roles are inconsistently rendered ("Dave," "Donna," "Latonya," "Mike," "Bill," "Don Landry") and it is not always clear who is speaking or whether some of these are the same person misheard.
  • The exact final dollar figure for the back-lot expansion bid was never settled on the record ($79,000/$78,000/approximately $40,000/$45,000 all mentioned at different points).
  • The precise new split of the $1,200 lot fee between the sale-of-lots and perpetual-care accounts was left pending confirmation from the town ("Marilyn") rather than finalized in the meeting.
  • Whether the adjournment motion was actually voted on (an "all in favor" was not captured after the second).

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