What was said

Conservation Commission, August 15, 2018

the recording · 0:54 long, about 7,119 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 41:40The Conservation Commission deferred action on the enforcement order for the Powell gravel processing yard, on condition that a Notice of Intent is filed and heard by October 3, 2018.
  2. ▶ 13:28The commission approved a standard order of conditions for a septic upgrade at 986 Fisher Road, with buffer plantings added.
  3. ▶ 17:05The commission issued a standard order of conditions for 564 Page Street and a negative determination for the deck at 55 Spring Street.
  4. ▶ 17:52Hearings for 141 Hemlock Road, the Hickory Hills drawdown plan and the 667 Reservoir Road dock were each continued to September 5.
  5. ▶ 49:44Outstanding minutes, including August 1, were held to the next meeting; Robbs Hill timber cutting is to get a site visit after the forester's plan is sent.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Powell yard decision leaves a gravel operation under review rather than enforcement, so whether it gets wetlands conditions depends on the Notice of Intent hearing.
  • Orders of conditions set the protections, such as buffer plantings and maintenance requirements, that apply to septic and building work near wetlands and water.

Watch next

  • October 3, 2018: deadline for the Powell gravel yard Notice of Intent to be filed and heard.
  • September 5, 2018: continued hearings for Hemlock Road, Hickory Hills and Reservoir Road.

legalplanning and zoningtown departments

Present: Todd wire (member); Richard Burch (chair (absent; chair of this meeting not named)); Matt (conservation agent); Jack (member); Bob (member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 3:03Issue a negative determination for the deck at 55 Spring Streetpassed
  2. ▶ 13:28Notice of intent with standard order of conditions for septic at 986 Fisher Road, with O&M requirements in file and low-lying buffer plantings addedpassed
  3. ▶ 17:05Issue a standard order of conditions for 564 Page Streetpassed
  4. ▶ 17:52Continue the 141 Hemlock Road hearing to September 5passed
  5. ▶ 20:03Continue the Hickory Hills drawdown plan hearing to September 5passed
  6. ▶ 21:03Continue the 667 Reservoir Road dock hearing to September 5passed
  7. ▶ 41:40Defer action on the enforcement order provided a Notice of Intent is filed and hearing held by October 3, 2018passed

And 2 procedural: approve the minutes of june 16th (▶ 50:05); adjourn (▶ 53:37).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 7 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differs986 Fisher/Fischer Road septic condition▶ 13:28

    recording Notice of intent with standard order of conditions for septic at 986 Fisher Road, with O&M requirements in file and low-lying buffer plantings added — passed

    town’s minutes “bp moved for a standard order with the added condition of blueberry bushes will be planted at the toe of slope”

    Both record a standard order with a planting condition, but ours adds O&M requirements and calls it a notice of intent, while the official calls it a request for determination. Check the recording and the issued order.

  2. differs141 Hemlock Road continuance date▶ 17:52

    recording Continue the 141 Hemlock Road hearing to September 5 — passed

    town’s minutes “the meeting was continued by request of the applicant to the september 5 2017 meeting at 7 pm by a motion of kj and a second by jr with a unanimous vote.”

    The official text says 2017, which looks like a typo for 2018 (the other items say 2018). Check the date against the recording.

  3. differsHickory Hills continuance vote▶ 20:03

    recording Continue the Hickory Hills drawdown plan hearing to September 5 — passed

    town’s minutes “this was continued to the meeting of september 5, 2018 at 7 pm by a motion of kj and a second by cc.”

    The date agrees. The official summary says four of five members voted, with Rabbitt recused, and ours records no recusal. Check the recording for a recusal.

  4. differsPowell Stone and Gravel hearing date vote vs. enforcement order deferral▶ 41:40

    recording Defer action on the enforcement order provided a Notice of Intent is filed and hearing held by October 3, 2018 — passed

    town’s minutes “bp moved to establish a deadline of oct 3, 2018 as the date of the hearing for the notice of intent”

    Both involve October 3, 2018. Ours describes a deferral of an enforcement order conditioned on a filing, and the official describes setting the hearing date with a filing deadline of 9/18/18. Check whether these are the same motion and what its terms were.

  5. differsSite walk for 141 Hemlock Road▶ 18:57

    recording Members to set a new site walk date for 141 Hemlock Road by email/poll with the applicant.

    town’s minutes “mm indicated he would send a doodle poll to the members for dates and times the commission could walk with mr nault.”

    Both describe a poll for site walk dates. Ours has members setting the date with the applicant, and the official has the administrator sending the poll to members. Check who sends it.

  6. differsRobbs Hill discussion▶ 44:46

    recording Robbs Hill: forester's plan to be sent before a site visit around the second in September.

    town’s minutes “bp expressed that the commission should prioritize getting the small town forest cleanup and gate completed first.”

    The two describe different outcomes: a forester's plan and a September site visit, versus prioritizing the cleanup and gate. Check the recording to see whether both were discussed.

  7. differsSpeaking to the chair about the open space committee▶ 52:33

    recording Chair to talk to the absent chairman about joining the open space committee.

    town’s minutes “the commission indicated they will speak to the chair as he does regularly attend the meetings.”

    Ours has the chair speaking to the chairman about joining the committee. The official has the commission speaking to the chair about the committee's search for a replacement for Mr. Dwyer. Check who will speak to whom and about what.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Attendee Todd Dwyer:Todd wire (member)→Todd Dwyer
  • Attendee Richard Bursch:Richard Burch (chair (absent; chair of this meeting not named))→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee Matt, conservation agent:Matt (conservation agent)→Matthew S. Marro
In one record only: 0 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Town’s minutes only — Agent's report deferred: “agents report /action items : - to be discussed at next meeting.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Carl Luck absent: “call to order vice chair dwyer presiding- all members present except chiarman bursch and mr. luck”
  • Town’s minutes only — Members Catie Childs and Kenneth Jones present: “call to order vice chair dwyer presiding- all members present except chiarman bursch and mr. luck”
  • Town’s minutes only — Applicants and others appearing: “mr illegiao attended representing himself.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

Nothing touching money was heard beyond the transfers.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 18:57Members to set a new site walk date for 141 Hemlock Road by email/poll with the applicant.
  • ▶ 44:46Robbs Hill: forester's plan to be sent before a site visit around the second in September.
  • ▶ 49:44Outstanding minutes, including August 1st, held to the next meeting.
  • ▶ 52:33Chair to talk to the absent chairman about joining the open space committee.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed documents for consideration of approval was a notice of intent:

  • Notice of Intent, remedial plan narrative by Nourse Environmental, and remediation blueprint by Soils Smith Designs
  • Request for a determination form and a plan by Marsden Engineering
  • Notice of Intent and a blueprint by David E. Ross and Associates entitled "Sewage Disposal System"

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Conservation restriction/land donation combination (Gilchrest land exchange)

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 48:35Minutes of June 16th special meetingprior minutes, shown· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 15:19updated plan for 564 Page Streetplan or drawing· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes

In the minutes’ list and not identified in the recording: Notice of Intent, remedial plan narrative by Nourse Environmental, and remediation blueprint by Soils Smith Designs; Request for a determination form and a plan by Marsden Engineering; Notice of Intent and a blueprint by David E. Ross and Associates entitled "Sewage Disposal System".

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:01Call to order, roll call, announcementsinformational · 1:24 long
  2. ▶ 1:2655 Spring Street deck RDAvoted · 2:04 long · planning and zoning
  3. ▶ 3:31986 Fisher Road septic RDAvoted · 11:04 long · planning and zoning, legal
  4. ▶ 14:36564 Page Street continued NOIvoted · 2:54 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 17:32Continued hearings: Hemlock Road, Hickory Hills, Reservoir Roadvoted · 3:58 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 21:31Violations: Sunset Lane, Bird Street, West Streetinformational · 5:29 long · legal
  7. ▶ 27:01Powell gravel yard enforcement ordervoted · 15:59 long · legal, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 43:01Eagle Scout project, Robbs Hill, Gilcrest land exchangeinformational · 6:59 long · town departments
  9. ▶ 50:01Minutes, committee reports, other announcementsvoted · 3:39 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Roll call names are mangled; attendance of members other than Richard Burch (absent) is uncertain.
  • Votes were by voice; counts not given.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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