What was said

Conservation Commission, December 20, 2023

the recording · 2:36 long, about 17,333 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:55:37The Conservation Commission voted unanimously to lift its cease-and-desist at the 7-Eleven Mass Ave site so a storm sceptor can be installed; the enforcement order stays until restoration planting is done.
  2. ▶ 50:14The 390 Howard Street wetland delineation hearing was continued to January 17, 2024, after a dispute over flags; a site visit is to be arranged offline.
  3. ▶ 21:40The Commission approved a notice of intent for a garage addition at 22 Fairview Road, with standard conditions, on a unanimous roll call.
  4. ▶ 52:01Hearings for Sunny Hill Road, Arbor Street and three Kilber Street lots were each continued, most to January 3.
  5. ▶ 1:08:18Legal-ad payment problems were left unresolved; staff are to call the Ledger about the cause and an online payment process, and the Hollis Road caretaker lease also ended without a resolution.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The cease-and-desist and enforcement order at the Mass Ave site set when stormwater controls can be installed and when the wetland restoration must be finished.
  • Who pays for legal ads, and how, decides whether a hearing can be held, so applicants' filings and the Land Use office budget are both affected.
  • The Hollis Road house is town conservation property whose rent and repairs draw on a revolving fund, so the unsettled lease terms bear on a town asset.

Watch next

  • January 3, 2024: continued hearings for Sunny Hill Road and the three Kilber Street lots.
  • January 17, 2024: continued 390 Howard Street delineation hearing.

executive sessionfacilitiesfeesgrantslegalpersonnelplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown departments

Present: Mary (chair); Bob Peas (member); Chris St Germaine (member); Mike Larouche (member); Rich Burch (member); Sophie (conservation staff / agent); Anna Lockwood (presenter (Parks Commission)); Karen Manard (presenter (Parks Commission)); Brian Jenis (Building Commissioner); Matt Maro (applicant representative). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 21:40Approve notice of intent for garage addition at 22 Fairview Road with standard order of conditions — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed (roll call, all members voting aye)
  2. ▶ 50:14Continue 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation hearing to January 17, 2024 — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed (roll call, all aye)
  3. ▶ 52:01Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road hearing to January 3passed (roll call, all aye)
  4. ▶ 53:49Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing at applicant's requestpassed (roll call, all aye)
  5. ▶ 55:36Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot one hearing to January 3 — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed (roll call, all aye)
  6. ▶ 57:02Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot two hearing to January 3 — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed (roll call, all aye)
  7. ▶ 58:05Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot three hearing to January 3passed (roll call, all aye)
  8. ▶ 1:55:37Lift the cease-and-desist at the 7-Eleven Mass Ave site so the storm sceptor can be installedpassed (roll call, all aye)

And 1 procedural: adjourn (▶ 2:33:36).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 10 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsDecision: caretaker email and agreement (Karen vs Corinne)▶ 2:23:27

    recording Chair to share Karen's email with Bob and staff, and Bob to send her the caretaker agreement.

    town’s minutes “mary asked bob to send a copy of the lease to corinne”

    Bob sending the lease or agreement matches, but ours names 'Karen' and the official names Corinne Jones, the caretaker. Our minutes also list a 'Karen Manard' as a Parks presenter. Check the recording to see who the recipient is and whether Karen is a separate person.

10 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Vote: continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 1:Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot one hearing to January 3 — passed→Kilburn▶ 55:36
  • Vote: continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 2:Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot two hearing to January 3 — passed→Kilburn▶ 57:02
  • Vote: continue 20 Kilburn Street Lot 3:Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot three hearing to January 3 — passed→Kilburn▶ 58:05
  • Vote: lift cease and desist at 711 Mass Ave:Lift the cease-and-desist at the 7-Eleven Mass Ave site so the storm sceptor can be installed — passed→711 Mass Ave▶ 1:55:37
  • Attendee: Bob Pease:Bob Peas (member)→Bob Pease
  • Attendee: Richard Bursch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Attendee: Chris St. Germain:Chris St Germaine (member)→Chris St. Germain
  • Attendee: Ana Lockwood:Anna Lockwood (presenter (Parks Commission))→Ana Lockwood
  • Attendee: Matt Marro:Matt Maro (applicant representative)→Matt Marro
  • Attendee: Building Inspector Brian Gingras:Brian Jenis (Building Commissioner)→Brian Gingras
In one record only: 5 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Figure: $10,200 per year caretaker license: $10,200 per year ▶ 2:20:13
  • Recording only — Figure: legal ad fees $40: Legal ad fees: $40 ▶ 1:04:33
  • Recording only — Figure: Hollis Road revolving fund balance over $60,000: Hollis Road revolving fund balance: over 60 Grand, 6,000 and some change ▶ 2:30:48
  • Recording only — Decision: enforcement order remains after cease-and-desist lifted: Cease-and-desist lifted but enforcement order remains until restoration planting is done. ▶ 1:56:31
  • Recording only — Attendee: Karen Manard: Karen Manard (presenter (Parks Commission))
  • Town’s minutes only — Decisions: follow-ups and assignments in the official minutes only: “mike will let chris ruth know.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Attendees: absent member and others named only in the official minutes: “absent: jeff v . call to order at 7pm”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 1:04:33Legal ad fees

    Applicants pay a legal ad fee, formerly deposited to the general fund while ads were paid from the land use office budget, causing transfers in busy years; now applicants pay the newspaper directly.

    as heard:$40

  2. ▶ 1:09:43MRPC Trails Vision grant

    A commitment letter with GIS time was no longer needed because the grant had already been written and the town put in.

    as heard:$1,0008 hours

  3. ▶ 1:59:20950 Chase Ave shed removal

    Facilities manager's informal estimate to remove the structure from conservation land.

    as heard:$9,000

  4. ▶ 2:20:13Hollis Road caretaker license

    Agreement read aloud sets an annual fee paid monthly to the house gift fund plus monthly volunteer labor.

    as heard:$10,200 per year$85030 hours

  5. ▶ 2:30:48Hollis Road revolving fund balance

    A member recalled the fund balance was last seen as quite large, and reserves are needed for painting, chimney and kitchen repairs.

    as heard:over 60 Grand6,000 and some change

  6. ▶ 2:16:34Hollis Road rent

    A member suggested the rent could be doubled and still be below market and asked whether the fund could be spent on any conservation property.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 48:09Site visit for 390 Howard Street to be arranged offline, with applicant's representative checking flags first; hearing continued to January 17.
  • ▶ 1:08:18Sophie to call the Ledger to find the root cause of legal ad problems and ask about an online payment process.
  • ▶ 1:30:45Target of end of March set for finishing web presence cleanup so a QR code can go on the brochure.
  • ▶ 1:13:11Chair to solicit public volunteers to form an Earth Day 2024 planning work group.
  • ▶ 2:23:27Chair to share Karen's email with Bob and staff, and Bob to send her the caretaker agreement.
  • ▶ 1:56:31Cease-and-desist lifted but enforcement order remains until restoration planting is done.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 6:59Introduced himself when his raised hand was noticed (he is the applicant on a later hearing). — Kevin O'Brien, as heard
  2. ▶ 1:21:29Applicant Kevin O'Brien said other towns have the applicant pay the newspaper directly for legal ads, and no payment means no hearing.

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Recording and Zoom setup, opening scriptprocedural · 3:58 long
  2. ▶ 7:21Parks Commission update on town beach sand workinformational · 7:18 long · recreation, facilities
  3. ▶ 14:3922 Fairview Road garage addition NOIvoted: approved with standard conditions · 7:43 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 22:22390 Howard Street delineation hearing, flags and redelineationcontinued to January 17 · 28:34 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 50:56Continuances: Sunny Hill, Arbor Street, Kilber Street lotsvoted: continued · 7:29 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 58:25Stormwater task force rep and legal ad processno resolution; staff to follow up · 11:18 long · fees, town departments
  7. ▶ 1:09:43MRPC trails grant and Earth Day planninginformational · 3:47 long · grants
  8. ▶ 1:13:30318 and 390 Howard Street complaintsclarified, no action · 9:00 long · planning and zoning
  9. ▶ 1:22:30Old business: MACC membership, Munis, web cleanupinformational · 10:00 long · technology, personnel
  10. ▶ 1:32:307-Eleven Mass Ave cease-and-desist and restoration planvoted: cease-and-desist lifted · 24:43 long · planning and zoning, legal
  11. ▶ 1:57:13Enforcement status updates, 950 Chase Ave shed removalinformational · 6:27 long · legal
  12. ▶ 2:03:40Open space, trails, culverts, Haws conservation restrictioninformational · 10:48 long · grants, facilities
  13. ▶ 2:14:28Hollis Road residence caretaker lease and repairsno resolution; follow-up by Bob and chair · 19:08 long · contracts and unions, facilities, fees
  14. ▶ 2:33:36Adjournment and quorum checkadjourned · 2:52 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Captions between roughly 238 and 398 seconds are missing, including roll call, minutes and early agenda items.
  • Whether the January 3 quorum is secured was only loosely discussed.
  • Adjournment roll call is partly muddled in the captions.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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