What was said

Conservation Commission, December 20, 2023

the recording · 2:02 long, about 13,930 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 20:12The Commission voted 5-0 to approve a notice of intent for a garage addition at 22 Fairview Road with standard conditions.
  2. ▶ 48:10The 390 Howard Street delineation hearing was continued to January 17, 2024, after members asked for flags on permanent stakes, a redelineation and an updated plan.
  3. ▶ 1:52:49Members voted to lift the cease-and-desist at 7-Eleven Mass Ave so drainage can be installed; the enforcement order stays active until planting is done.
  4. ▶ 53:27Hearings at 255 Sunny Hill Road and 20 Kilber Street lots 1-3 were each continued to January 3, and 171 Arbor Street was continued at the applicant's request.
  5. ▶ 1:06:14Staff will call The Ledger to learn why legal-ad payment broke down, and ask about an online payment process.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Who pays for legal ads on wetlands hearings, the applicant directly or the town, affects the land use office budget and whether a hearing can proceed.
  • The continued hearings, including 390 Howard Street and 7-Eleven Mass Ave, decide what neighbors and abutters can build or must restore near wetlands in the new year.

Watch next

  • January 3, 2024: continued hearings at 255 Sunny Hill Road and 20 Kilber Street lots 1-3.
  • January 17, 2024: continued 390 Howard Street delineation hearing, after a site inspection and flag check.

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Present: Mary (chair); Bob Peas (member (vice chair)); Rich Burch (member); Jeff Vivano (member (said to be arriving late)); Mike Larouche (member); Chris St Germain (member); Sophie (conservation agent/staff); Anna Lockwood (presenter (Parks Commission)); Brian Jing (Building Commissioner); Karen Menard (presenter (Parks Commission, on call)). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 20:12Approve notice of intent for garage addition at 22 Fairview Road with standard order of conditions — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  2. ▶ 48:10Continue the 390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineation hearing to January 17, 2024 — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  3. ▶ 50:09Continue 255 Sunny Hill Road hearing to January 3 — moved by Bob Peas, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  4. ▶ 51:38Continue 171 Arbor Street hearing (applicant requested)passed 5-0 by roll call
  5. ▶ 53:27Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 1 request for determination to January 3 — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  6. ▶ 54:51Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 2 hearing to January 3 — moved by Rich Burch, as heardpassed 5-0 by roll call
  7. ▶ 55:54Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 3 hearing to January 3passed 5-0 by roll call
  8. ▶ 1:52:49Lift the cease-and-desist at 7-Eleven Mass Ave so the proposed storm septic/drainage can be installedpassed (roll call; four members and the chair voted aye)

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of november 15 (▶ 4:18); approve minutes of december 6 (▶ 4:40).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 12 agree, 9 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 1 substantive difference. The town’s minutes are a full record.

  1. differsAttendance of Jeff Viviano▶ 0:00

    recording Jeff Vivano (member (said to be arriving late))

    town’s minutes “absent: jeff v . call to order at 7pm”

    Ours has him expected late; the official minutes list him absent. Check the recording to see whether he arrived and took part in any votes. The 5-0 tallies in ours are consistent with five members present.

9 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Street name: Kilber Street vs Kilburn St (Lot 1 continuation):Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 1 request for determination to January 3 — passed 5-0 by roll call→20 Kilburn St▶ 53:27
  • Street name: Kilber Street vs Kilburn St (Lot 2 continuation):Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 2 hearing to January 3 — passed 5-0 by roll call→20 Kilburn St▶ 54:51
  • Street name: Kilber Street vs Kilburn St (Lot 3 continuation):Continue 20 Kilber Street Lot 3 hearing to January 3 — passed 5-0 by roll call→20 Kilburn St▶ 55:54
  • Address: 7-Eleven Mass Ave vs 711 Mass Ave:Lift the cease-and-desist at 7-Eleven Mass Ave so the proposed storm septic/drainage can be installed — passed (roll call; four members and the chair voted aye)→711 Mass Ave; stormceptor▶ 1:52:49
  • Vice chair name:Bob Peas (member (vice chair))→Bob Pease
  • Member name Rich Burch:Rich Burch (member)→Richard Bursch
  • Parks presenter name:Anna Lockwood (presenter (Parks Commission))→Ana Lockwood
  • Building official name and title:Brian Jing (Building Commissioner)→Brian Gingras (Building Inspector)
  • 390 Howard site inspection: name and plan:Matt Morrow will work with the office to schedule a site inspection and check flags beforehand; the hearing was continued to January 17 rather than January 3.→Matt Marro▶ 44:03
In one record only: 4 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Karen Menard on call for Parks Commission: Karen Menard (presenter (Parks Commission, on call))
  • Recording only — Legal ad fee of $40: Legal ad fee: $40 ▶ 1:02:24
  • Recording only — 7-Eleven/711 enforcement order stays active until planting done: Enforcement order at 7-Eleven stays active until planting is done, though work can continue. ▶ 1:54:01
  • Recording only — Engineers to survey 2008 flags and redelineate wetlands at 390 Howard: Members asked the applicant at 390 Howard St to have engineers survey-locate the 2008 flags on permanent stakes, redelineate wetlands under current conditions, and update the plan to show site work. ▶ 24:56
  • Town’s minutes only — Other attendees listed in the official minutes: “kevin o'brien (applicant) and matt marro present.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Hollis Road caretaker rent of $850 a month: “stating the monthly rent of $ 850/month, due on the 5th”
  • Town’s minutes only — Other action items (Hawes Fund, Munis, lease, trail map, chimney leak): “bob is researching into the fund, to see if it could also be spent at other conservation properties.”

Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 59:12Legal ad payment

    Applicants have for over a year been asked to pay The Lunenburg Ledger directly instead of paying the town. This was changed because ads were paid from the land use office budget, which ran short in busy years.

  2. ▶ 1:02:24Legal ad fee

    Matt Morrow said applicants previously wrote the town a check for each legal ad, deposited to the general fund, and transfers to the advertising budget were needed in busy years.

    as heard:$40

  3. ▶ 1:07:37MRPC Trails Vision Grant

    A commitment letter vote was no longer needed; the grant was already written and GIS time belongs to the planning board.

    as heard:$1,000eight hours

  4. ▶ 1:56:28Removal of shed/barn at 950 Chase Ave conservation land

    The facilities manager obtained an informal estimate for removal and demolition; the commission will return to the town manager and counsel on next steps.

    as heard:$9,000

  5. ▶ 1:21:23MACC membership and handbook

    The town paid membership for active members, and a commissioner donated for the handbook.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 24:56Members asked the applicant at 390 Howard St to have engineers survey-locate the 2008 flags on permanent stakes, redelineate wetlands under current conditions, and update the plan to show site work.
  • ▶ 44:03Matt Morrow will work with the office to schedule a site inspection and check flags beforehand; the hearing was continued to January 17 rather than January 3.
  • ▶ 1:06:14Sophie will call The Ledger to learn the root cause of the legal ad problem and ask about an online payment process like Gardner's.
  • ▶ 1:09:03The Trails Vision Grant item was converted to an FYI: Bob put the town in for the grant and Heather wrote the letter.
  • ▶ 1:10:44Chair will seek public volunteers for an Earth Day 2024 work group; no objections raised.
  • ▶ 1:28:30Target of March set for finishing the web presence cleanup and QR-code brochure.
  • ▶ 58:05No member volunteered for the stormwater task force seat; deferred.
  • ▶ 1:54:01Enforcement order at 7-Eleven stays active until planting is done, though work can continue.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 3:32Chair invited public comment at the start; no hands raised.
  2. ▶ 19:07Chair invited public comment on 22 Fairview Road; none offered.
  3. ▶ 1:18:53Suggested the commission follow other towns' practice of having the applicant pay the paper for legal ads directly, and no payment means no hearing. — Kevin O'Brien, as heard, applicant

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Opening script, roll call, announcements, public comment invitationprocedural · 3:56 long
  2. ▶ 3:56Approval of November 15 and December 6 minutesvoted · 1:25 long
  3. ▶ 5:21Parks Commission update on town beach sand reclamationinformational · 7:39 long · recreation, facilities
  4. ▶ 13:0722 Fairview Road garage addition notice of intentvoted, approved · 7:52 long · planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 20:59390 Howard Street abbreviated notice of resource area delineationcontinued to January 17 · 28:11 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 49:10Continuances: 255 Sunny Hill Rd, 171 Arbor St, 20 Kilber St lots 1-3voted, continued to January 3 · 7:04 long · planning and zoning
  7. ▶ 56:35Stormwater task force seat and legal ad payment problemagent to contact the Ledger · 11:02 long · legal, fees
  8. ▶ 1:07:37MRPC Trails Vision Grant and Earth Day planninginformational · 3:26 long · grants, recreation
  9. ▶ 1:11:04318 and 390 Howard Street complaints clarifiedresolved for now · 9:14 long · planning and zoning
  10. ▶ 1:20:18Old business: MACC membership, MUNIS access, brochuresinformational · 10:02 long · personnel, technology
  11. ▶ 1:30:207-Eleven Mass Ave enforcement and restoration plancease-and-desist lifted · 24:02 long · planning and zoning, legal
  12. ▶ 1:54:22Other enforcement and encroachment updates (950 Chase Ave, certificates of compliance), open space grants and trail workinformational · 7:48 long · planning and zoning, grants

What the captions could not carry

  • Transcript ends mid-sentence during the open space and conservation land update; any later business, adjournment and closing votes are not captured.
  • Roll call at 6769 is partly garbled; the exact count is not certain.
  • The 7-Eleven motion was made by an unidentified commissioner and the wording is partly garbled.

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