What was said

Open Space Committee, February 8, 2023

the recording · 0:58 long, about 7,707 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 5:43The Open Space Committee voted no recommendation on the Parmenter Road parcel; it discussed a draft memo to move it to Parks and Rec for car-top kayak access.
  2. ▶ 30:21Many residents objected to the Parmenter Road site, citing safety, traffic, a steep slope, a storm drain easement and accessibility costs.
  3. ▶ 27:30Members disagreed on whether the memo should carry detail or be a simple transfer recommendation, and the Conservation Commission chair advised keeping it simple.
  4. ▶ 4:21The Reservoir Road parcel cannot be addressed until its title is cleared; the chair will meet Town Counsel in February on three options.
  5. ▶ 1:52The committee approved the January 11th minutes.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Parmenter Road parcel could move to Parks and Rec control for boat access, which would affect the neighborhood around it and could bring site costs, such as accessibility work, to the town budget.
  • The Reservoir Road alternative depends on a title question that has to be cleared first, so any decision on lake access is likely to take longer.

Watch next

  • The chair's February follow-up meeting with Town Counsel on clearing the Reservoir Road title.
  • A revised recommendation memo on the Parmenter Road parcel, and any formal request from the Parks Commission.

legalplanning and zoningpolicypublic commentrecreation

Present: Mike two Hill (chair); Otto Lockwood (vice chair); Brandon Kibby (clerk); Eric Hines (member, remote); Anna (member (also chair of Parks and Rec), remote); Mary Wilson (member, remote); Bob Pease (chair of Conservation Commission, remote). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 1 procedural.

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 6 agree, 4 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsTown Counsel follow-up on title to the parcel▶ 4:21

    recording Chair to hold a follow-up meeting with Town Counsel in February on clearing the title to the Reservoir Road parcel, which has three options.

    town’s minutes “3 potential ways to clear title; town counsel to review options with town manager and selectboard chair.”

    Both cite three title options, but the actions differ: the chair meets Town Counsel in February (ours) versus Town Counsel reviewing with the Town Manager and Selectboard Chair (official). The parcel is also named differently (Reservoir Road vs Parmenter Road elsewhere in the official minutes). Check the recording and the official minutes.

  2. differsLetter to Town Manager and Selectmen▶ 51:22

    recording The Parks chair clarified that Parks Commission voted to bring a formal request to the committee, so a separate letter is not needed.

    town’s minutes “m. toohill will draft letter to town manager and board of selectmen to summarize what the discussions have been.”

    Ours says no separate letter is needed; the official says the chair will draft a letter. The two letters may be different ones, but a person should check the recording near t=3082.

  3. differsAnna (member and Parks and Rec chair)▶ 51:22

    recording Anna (member (also chair of Parks and Rec))

    town’s minutes “karin menard - member of parks commission.”

    Ours lists Anna as a member and Parks chair. The official lists no such member; its only Parks person is Karin Menard, a Parks Commission member. Anna may be a misheard Ana Lockwood, or the Parks chair or Karin Menard. Check the recording.

4 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Chair name:Mike two Hill (chair)→Michael Toohill
  • Vice chair name:Otto Lockwood (vice chair)→Ana Lockwood
  • Clerk name:Brandon Kibby (clerk)→Brandon Kibbe
  • Member name:Eric Hines (member)→Eric Hinds
In one record only: 0 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Town’s minutes only — Approval of 9/8/22 minutes tabled: “minutes not available for 9/8/22, approval tabled.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Vice Chair to investigate limitations: “a. lockwood will start investigating more answers on limitations, asks other committee members to outline the principle concerns.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comments forwarded to Parks and Rec: “with information about public comments forwarded to parks and rec.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters: “karin menard - member of parks commission.”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 34:09Shady Point annual kayak/canoe pass

    A resident relayed that the private Shady Point offers town residents an annual pass and is open to library lending of passes.

    as heard:forty dollars

  2. ▶ 33:07ADA compliance costs at Parmenter parcel

    A resident said site changes would trigger ADA requirements and be costly to taxpayers.

  3. ▶ 43:23Town contribution to Lake Shirley upkeep

    A resident said the town pays nothing toward lake maintenance while residents fund weed and algae control.

    as heard:not one dime

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 4:21Chair to hold a follow-up meeting with Town Counsel in February on clearing the title to the Reservoir Road parcel, which has three options.
  • ▶ 51:22The Parks chair clarified that Parks Commission voted to bring a formal request to the committee, so a separate letter is not needed.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 30:21Opposes Parmenter lot for car-top access: ADA slope costs, safety, school bus turnaround; suggests the paved Reservoir Road parcel instead. — Joel Swenson, as heard, resident, 17 Ruth Street
  2. ▶ 33:47Relays Shady Point's $40 pass offer; says town bought the parcel for a storm drain; concerns about litter, loitering, neighborhood traffic and boating safety. — Mary Perkins, as heard, resident, 62 Ruth Street
  3. ▶ 38:13Objects to the Parmenter site: dangerous intersection, tight streets, room for only about four parking spots. — Rich Pearson, as heard, resident, 75 Ruth Street
  4. ▶ 39:14Object to Parmenter site; worry about traffic on the single-lane bridge and crowding; note the town contributes nothing to lake upkeep. — Fiona K and David King, as heard, residents, 667 Reservoir Road
  5. ▶ 44:24Opposes transfer: congestion, storm drain easement, lot-line and setback issues, tree removal and bylaws; recommends it stay open. — Virginia Wolfram, as heard, resident, 45 Parmenter
  6. ▶ 54:52The parcel is small and tight for boats and kayaks. — Jerry Brown, as heard, abutter, 5 Johnson Street
  7. ▶ 55:53Safety concerns about fast boats and jet skis and a blind corner in the cove. — Gary spent, as heard, resident, 7 Ruth Street

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:08Call to order and open meeting law noticeinformational · 1:44 long
  2. ▶ 1:52Approve January 11th minutesvoted · 1:25 long
  3. ▶ 3:17Open space conference and Reservoir Road title examinationinformational · 2:26 long · legal
  4. ▶ 5:43Parmenter Road and Reservoir Road parcels: draft recommendation memo and member discussionno resolution · 21:47 long · recreation, policy
  5. ▶ 27:30Conservation Commission chair advice to keep recommendation simpleinformational · 2:51 long · planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 30:21Resident comment on Parmenter Road parcelinformational · 24:31 long · public comment, recreation
  7. ▶ 51:22Parks chair response on exploring the optionsinformational · 3:30 long · recreation
  8. ▶ 54:52Further abutter comment on safetyinformational · 3:28 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Whether Matt Allison joined.
  • Captions end mid-sentence at about 3481 seconds; any further comment, discussion or vote is not captured.
  • Details of the three title-clearing options were not given.
  • Whether the draft recommendation was ever voted on is not in the captions.

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