What was said

Open Space Committee, February 8, 2023

the recording · 1:33 long, about 12,516 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:07:24The Open Space Committee took no vote on whether to recommend moving the Parmenter Road parcel to Parks and Rec for car-top kayak access.
  2. ▶ 1:23:18The chair volunteered to draft a letter to the town manager and Select Board noting concerns to be evaluated before any transfer of care and control, without recommending one.
  3. ▶ 30:27Public comment, mostly from neighbors, opposed the site, citing traffic, safety at the intersection, limited parking, and possible ADA costs to the town.
  4. ▶ 1:30:56Members were split between recommending transfer and doing more due diligence first; the Parks Commission chair will compile and research the concerns.
  5. ▶ 1:31:38The next meeting stays on March 8th with the vice chair running it; April 12th follows.

Why it matters — our reading

  • Whether the Parmenter Road lot becomes a public lake access point is still open, and the Select Board will have the committee's concerns, not a recommendation, when it considers any transfer of the parcel.
  • Neighbors raised possible ADA compliance costs to the town, a cost question that residents have not seen answered in this meeting.

Watch next

  • Open Space Committee meeting on March 8th, with the Parks Commission's research on the raised concerns possibly ready then or within a couple of months.
  • The chair's letter to the town manager and Select Board, not yet drafted at this meeting.

legalplanning and zoningpublic commentrecreationtown departments

Present: Mike two Hill (chair); Anna Lockwood (vice chair); Brandon Kibby (clerk); Eric Hines (member); Mary Wilson (member); Bob Pease (Conservation Commission chair); Karen Menard (Parks Commission member). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

No substantive votes heard. 2 procedural.

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 7 agree, 5 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 0 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.

5 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Chair's name:Mike two Hill (chair)→Michael Toohill▶ 0:00
  • Vice chair's name:Anna Lockwood (vice chair)→Ana Lockwood▶ 0:00
  • Clerk's name:Brandon Kibby (clerk)→Brandon Kibbe▶ 0:00
  • Member's name:Eric Hines (member)→Eric Hinds▶ 0:00
  • Parks Commission member's name:Karen Menard (Parks Commission member)→Karin Menard▶ 0:00
In one record only: 1 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Next meeting dates: Next meeting stays on March 8th, with the vice chair running it; April 12th is the one after. ▶ 1:31:38
  • Town’s minutes only — Approval of 9/8/22 minutes tabled: “minutes not available for 9/8/22, approval tabled.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Town Counsel to review title options: “3 potential ways to clear title; town counsel to review options with town manager and selectboard chair.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public comments forwarded to Parks and Rec: “with information about public comments forwarded to parks and rec.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Public commenters: “shady point owner offers an annual pass for $40 to launch there.”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 31:47Cost of ADA compliance at Parmenter site

    A resident argued site changes would trigger ADA requirements and be costly to the town.

  2. ▶ 33:53Shady Point annual pass

    A resident relayed that Shady Point offers town residents an annual pass for kayaks and canoes.

    as heard:forty dollars

  3. ▶ 43:23Town contribution to lake maintenance

    A resident said the town contributes nothing to lake upkeep while residents pay for weed control.

    as heard:not one dimethousands of dollars a year

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:23:18Chair volunteered to draft a letter to the town manager and Select Board noting concerns to be evaluated before any transfer of care and control, without recommending transfer.
  • ▶ 1:30:56Parks Commission chair to compile concerns and research them, with help from members, aiming for the next meeting or within a couple of months.
  • ▶ 1:31:38Next meeting stays on March 8th, with the vice chair running it; April 12th is the one after.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 30:27Opposes use of the Parmenter lot for car-top access; cites safety, ADA costs, and the Reservoir Road parcel as alternative. — Joel Swenson 17 Ruth Street, as heard
  2. ▶ 33:53Shady Point pass offer, storm drain easement and town purchase history, concerns about neighborhood congestion and traffic. — Mary Perkins 62 Ruth Street, as heard
  3. ▶ 38:29Objects to the Parmenter site; dangerous intersection at the bus stop, little room for parking. — Rich Pearson 75 Ruth Street, as heard, resident
  4. ▶ 39:30Objects to Parmenter site; traffic, single-lane bridge on Reservoir Road, need for monitoring; town contributes nothing to lake maintenance. — Fiona K, 667 Reservoir Road, as heard
  5. ▶ 44:24Opposes Parmenter transfer; storm drain easement, lot lines, setbacks, tree removal, safety; letter sent to boards. — Virginia Wolfram, 45 Parmenter, as heard
  6. ▶ 54:46Abutter says the lot is too small for kayak traffic. — Jerry Brown, 5 Johnson Street, as heard
  7. ▶ 55:50Safety concerns about fast boats and blind corner near the cove. — Gary spent, 7 Ruth Street, as heard
  8. ▶ 59:00Defends the cove (Lilyland/stump Cove) as a good launch area. — Joel, as heard
  9. ▶ 1:01:01Public access already exists via Shady Point; recommendation should weigh safety. — Virginia, as heard
  10. ▶ 1:02:46Says the cove is usable and safer for kayaking. — Mary, as heard
  11. ▶ 1:04:15Parks Commission member says residents lack reasonable lake access and invites neighbors to Parks Commission meetings. — Karen Menard, 672 Page Street, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:08Open meeting law notice and roll callquorum noted · 1:44 long
  2. ▶ 1:52January 11th minutesvoted · 1:25 long · policy
  3. ▶ 3:17Open space conference announcementinformational · 1:01 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 4:18Title examination for zero Reservoir Roadinformational; counsel considering three options · 1:22 long · legal, recreation
  5. ▶ 5:40Draft recommendations on Lake Shirley parcels and committee discussiondiscussion · 21:36 long · recreation, planning and zoning
  6. ▶ 27:16Public comment on Parmenter Road parcelheard · 40:08 long · public comment, recreation
  7. ▶ 1:07:24Committee deliberation, Article 97 and due diligenceno vote; chair to write letter · 23:32 long · recreation, legal, planning and zoning
  8. ▶ 1:30:56Next meeting and adjournmentvoted to adjourn · 2:05 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Anna's vote on adjournment is unclear
  • Some names and addresses are mangled by the captions
  • Which committee member made the adjournment motion is not clear

These are ours, and they are not the record

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