What was said

Planning Board, January 9, 2023

the recording · 2:18 long, about 17,483 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

The town published minutes (text), minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 1:40:57The Planning Board continued the 1325 Mass Ave site plan and stormwater hearing to January 23 at 6:05 pm, 4-0 by roll call, after sharp abutter objections.
  2. ▶ 1:31:27The hearing is waiting on peer review comments and the outcomes of other boards; the applicant agreed to provide architectural renderings and truck turning templates.
  3. ▶ 36:31The board approved a modification to the Lunenburg Central site plan for signage, 4-0 by roll call, with existing conditions and none added.
  4. ▶ 4:10The board endorsed an approval-not-required plan for 68 Laurel Lane, 4-0 by roll call.
  5. ▶ 18:43The Select Board chair presented municipal building concepts with no vote; the Planning Board will take them up again in about two weeks.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The 1325 Mass Ave project, a contractor storage building near the water supply district, is still undecided, and neighbors will have another chance to comment at the continued hearing.
  • The municipal building concepts, which weigh renovating against rebuilding, are likely to reach voters as a funding question, and early cost estimates were described as very large.

Watch next

  • The continued 1325 Mass Ave hearing on January 23 at 6:05 pm.
  • The MBTA Communities action plan draft, due at the end of the month, and the municipal building concepts at the next meeting.

budgeteconomic developmentfacilitieshousingplanning and zoningpublic commenttown departmentstown meetingturkey hillwater sewer

Present: Mrs Reed (member); Mr Brenner (member); Mr Wilson (member); Amanda (member, remote); Adam (town planner / staff); Michael Ray Jeffries (presenter, Select Board chair and chair of Municipal Building Design Committee); Mr Allison (presenter (ANR applicant side)); Greg Roy (presenter, engineer for 1325 Mass Ave applicant); Bill (presenter, engineer for Lunenburg Central); John Brennan (presenter, Lunenburg Central ownership group). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 4:10Endorse the ANR (81P) application for 68 Laurel Lane — moved by unidentified member, as heardpassed 4-0 by roll call
  2. ▶ 35:07Close the public hearing on the Lunenburg Central sign modificationpassed by roll call; Mrs Reed's response is garbled, other three aye
  3. ▶ 36:31Approve the modification to site plan approval for Lunenburg Central, 475 Leominster Shirley Road, with existing conditions and no additional onespassed 4-0 by roll call
  4. ▶ 1:40:57Continue the 1325 Mass Ave hearing to January 23 at 6:05 pmpassed 4-0 by roll call

And 2 procedural: approve minutes of december 6, 2022 and december 12, 2022 (▶ 1:58:51); adjourn (▶ 2:18:26).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 5 agree, 2 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 3 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a summary.

  1. differsVote to close the public hearing on the Lunenburg Central sign modification▶ 35:07

    recording Close the public hearing on the Lunenburg Central sign modification — passed by roll call; Mrs Reed's response is garbled, other three aye

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a roll-call vote to close this hearing; the official excerpt records no such vote. Check the official minutes and the recording near t=2107.

  2. differsVote to continue 1325 Mass Ave hearing to January 23▶ 1:40:57

    recording Continue the 1325 Mass Ave hearing to January 23 at 6:05 pm — passed 4-0 by roll call

    town’s minutes —

    Our minutes record a roll-call continuance vote; the official minutes structured here mention no 1325 Mass Ave hearing or vote. Check the full official minutes and recording near t=6057.

  3. differsMatthew Allison's role▶ 4:10

    recording Mr Allison (presenter (ANR applicant side))

    town’s minutes “present: matthew allison, matthew brenner, timothy willsmer, adam burney amanda reid participated remotely under the oml simple extension legislation.”

    Official lists Allison as Chair and a voting member (aye on the ANR roll call), ours as an applicant-side presenter and lists a fourth member 'Amanda' separately. Check the recording to confirm who spoke as Allison.

2 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • Member name Mr Wilson:Mr Wilson (member)→Timothy Willsmer
  • Member name Mrs Reed:Mrs Reed (member)→Amanda Reid
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — MBTA Communities action plan draft: Planner to send MBTA Communities action plan draft to members for discussion at next meeting; due end of month. ▶ 2:09:39
  • Recording only — Housing choice / Community Compact funds: No pursuit of housing choice or Community Compact augmentation funds; members may bring ideas next meeting. ▶ 2:06:35
  • Recording only — Figures and discussion of 1325 Mass Ave and municipal building: TC Passios building renovation vs. new build: 23 million dollars, 30 million dollars; Rehabilitation cost per square foot: 350 dollars; Stormwater basin capacity 77 or 78 000 square feet; Solar planting fund 50 000 or a hundred thousand dollars ▶ 6:57
  • Town’s minutes only — MRPC DLTA call for proposals: “board members were in receipt of a call for proposals from mrpc for free planning services.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Pond View Commons comprehensive permit: “comprehensive permit application: pond view commons, llc, howard street - hearing ongoing with the zoning board of appeals.”
  • Town’s minutes only — Erik Torgersen absent: “absent: erik torgersen anr plan: 68 laurel lane - plan presented by kevin conover”
  • Town’s minutes only — Kevin Conover presenter for ANR: “plan presented by kevin conover, david ross associates, on behalf of owner schwowen s properties, llc.”

Compared 2026-10-14. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

The money

  1. ▶ 6:57TC Passios building renovation vs. new build

    Early estimates for renovating versus tearing down and rebuilding were described as very large, and voters were not expected to back the higher one.

    as heard:23 million dollars30 million dollars

  2. ▶ 15:55Rehabilitation cost per square foot

    Rehabilitation space was estimated at a per-square-foot rate that reaches the millions quickly for the after-school programs' space.

    as heard:350 dollars a square footsix thousand square feet

  3. ▶ 11:26Ritter building addition

    A new town hall add-on to the Ritter building would be limited new construction.

    as heard:four thousand square feet

  4. ▶ 51:35Stormwater basin capacity at 1325 Mass Ave

    Existing basin was built to handle a future impervious area.

    as heard:77 or 78 000 square feet

  5. ▶ 1:25:56Solar project abutter planting fund

    A planting fund was set up for abutters at a past ground-mount solar project and suggested as a model.

    as heard:50 000 or a hundred thousand dollars

  6. ▶ 1:44:04Comprehensive permit fees

    The town has received traffic peer review fees; the applicant's attorney said engineering peer review would not be funded yet.

    as heard:thousand dollar application

  7. ▶ 2:14:16Mass Works infrastructure grants and MBTA Communities compliance

    Noncompliance could affect eligibility for certain state grants such as Mass Works.

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 18:43Board agreed to take up the municipal building concepts again at the next meeting in about two weeks.
  • ▶ 1:31:27Hearing to continue pending peer review comments and outcomes of other boards; applicant agreed to provide architectural renderings and truck turning templates.
  • ▶ 1:46:32Driveways and entrances bylaw review (section 250 6.4) deferred to the next meeting; staff to create a OneDrive folder for it.
  • ▶ 2:09:39Planner to send MBTA Communities action plan draft to members for discussion at next meeting; due end of month.
  • ▶ 2:06:35No pursuit of housing choice or Community Compact augmentation funds; members may bring ideas next meeting.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 57:34Opposition to the 240-foot contractor storage building: operating hours, noise, property values, oversight, building size, request for an artist rendering, earth removal, and runoff in the water supply district. — Kathy McWilliams, as heard, reading statement for abutters Dale and Jerry Erskine
  2. ▶ 1:04:10Resident of Townsend Harbor Road objected to the rear building as industrial in size, raised traffic near the schools, asked for shorter noise hours and a downsized building.
  3. ▶ 1:34:59Asked for an artist rendering showing how the whole project would look from the road. — Dale Erskine, as heard, next-door abutter

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00ANR endorsement, 68 Laurel Lanevoted · 4:52 long · planning and zoning
  2. ▶ 5:13Municipal building design concepts (TC Passios, Town Hall, Ritter building)informational; return in two weeks · 20:03 long · facilities, town departments, turkey hill
  3. ▶ 25:16Lunenburg Central sign modification hearingvoted · 12:17 long · planning and zoning
  4. ▶ 37:331325 Mass Ave site plan and stormwater hearingcontinued to January 23 · 1:04:05 long · planning and zoning, public comment, water sewer
  5. ▶ 1:41:38Housekeeping: comprehensive permit, master plan RFP, driveways bylaw, minutesminutes approved; driveways deferred · 18:13 long · planning and zoning, housing, policy
  6. ▶ 1:59:51Committee reports and MRPC augmentation fundsinformational · 9:29 long · grants, housing, town meeting
  7. ▶ 2:09:20MBTA Communities, zoning for growth, Northfield Road easementinformational · 9:06 long · housing, planning and zoning, economic development
  8. ▶ 2:18:26Adjournmentvoted · 0:34 long

What the captions could not carry

  • Mrs Reed's response in the roll call to close the Lunenburg Central hearing is garbled.
  • Whether the open-hearing announcement for Lunenburg Central was formally read is unclear.
  • Some speakers during the 1325 Mass Ave discussion are unidentified.
  • The ANR speaker named Mr Allison and the applicant details are unclear.

These are ours, and they are not the record

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What changed

Version 15 — updated September 20, 2026