What was said
Select Board, November 21, 2017
the recording · 2:33 long, about 20,561 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately welllunenburgbudgetproject.org — written by the Lunenburg Budget Project, an independent tool for residents. Not affiliated with the Town of Lunenburg, the School Committee or the school district. The data this page is computed from: /data/recording-minutes/select-board/2017.json
The town published minutes (text), minutes (text) and an agenda, an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 19:05The board took up earth removal permits with the building commissioner; motions were made to not renew two permits, but the vote results are not audible.
- ▶ 27:43A motion was made to renew one 16-acre permit with a closure plan required for inactive areas, and to extend the 11 Keating permits one year with stipulations; results not audible.
- ▶ 1:33:22The board held workshops on the artificial turf field agreement, covering how the bond is paid, and on parks, fields and the beach.
- ▶ 2:29:03The board agreed to keep working on Turkey Hill and central office space, with a list of school office space needs to be provided.
- ▶ 8:18The board agreed to start the December 12th meeting at 6:00 to combine with the economic development workshop, then moved to enter executive session on firefighter contract negotiations.
Why it matters — our reading
- The turf field bond is paid from school and Bengals payments plus cell tower revenue, so the agreement terms bear on whether the field costs the town budget, mostly taxes, anything further.
- The first year of the municipal employees contract comes from the salary reserve line, and a special town meeting is to fund it, so residents may be asked to vote on that money.
- Decisions on Turkey Hill and central offices will determine where town and school staff are housed and what that space costs.
Watch next
- The December 12th meeting, starting at 6:00, combined with the economic development workshop.
- The special town meeting to fund year one of the municipal employees contract.
athleticscapitalcontracts and unionsexecutive sessionfacilitiesfeesplanning and zoningrecreationtown meetingturkey hill
Present: Gary Rhodes (building commissioner); mr. McQuade (member); Karen Menard (park commissioner); mr. McAuliffe (athletic director); mr. Londo (presenter, school facilities). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 19:05Not to renew earth removal permit number one for the Montori construction company.not audible
- ▶ 25:15Not to renew permit number 54 to Powell stone and gravel.not audible
- ▶ 27:43Renew permit number 32 (16 acres) with a closure plan required for inactive areas.not audible
- ▶ 35:00Approve one-year extensions for the 11 PJ Keating earth removal permits with stipulations.not audible
And 1 procedural: enter executive session under chapter 30a section 21 reason 3 on firefighter contract negotiations. (▶ 2:32:36).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 6 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.
recording Not to renew permit number 54 to Powell stone and gravel. — not audible
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record a vote the official minutes do not; check the recording and the official minutes for a Powell permit vote.
recording Renew permit number 32 (16 acres) with a closure plan required for inactive areas. — not audible
town’s minutes —
Our minutes record a renewal vote the official minutes do not; check the recording and the official minutes for permit 32.
recording Beach pass fees: $40 a family, $50 a family, $60 per family
town’s minutes “this year we increased the beach pass fee for families from $20 to $50.”
Our figures list $40/$50/$60, the official says $20 to $50; check the recording for the old and new fee and whether other fees were discussed.
- differsOutcome of Turkey Hill/central offices discussion vs deferral of MOA/turf discussion▶ 2:29:03
recording Agreed to keep working on the issues and reschedule further talks on Turkey Hill and central offices; list of school office space needs to be provided.
town’s minutes “this will be discussed more at a later date.”
Ours records ongoing talks on Turkey Hill and office space; official says the MOA/turf discussion was held off and the School Committee left. Check the recording for what was discussed.
6 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- AFSCME / municipal employees contract year 1 cost:Municipal employees contract year 1: 13,000 746 and 45 cents→$13,746.45▶ 4:08
- Attendee Karen Menard:Karen Menard (park commissioner)→Karin Menard
- Attendee Gary Rhodes:Gary Rhodes (building commissioner)→Garry Rhodes
- Attendee Mr. McQuade:mr. McQuade (member)→Mr. McQuaid
- Attendee Mr. McAuliffe:mr. McAuliffe (athletic director)→Pete McCauliff
- Attendee Mr. Londo:mr. Londo (presenter, school facilities)→John Londa
In one record only: 3 from the recording, 4 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Town beach revenue figures: Town beach revenue: nine thousand three hundred and one dollars, two thousand and eighty dollars ▶ 1:15:29
- Recording only — Artificial turf fund balance: Artificial turf fund balance: 134, 704 ▶ 1:40:35
- Recording only — Start December 12 meeting earlier at 6:00: Agreed to start the December 12th meeting earlier, at 6:00, to combine with the economic development workshop. ▶ 8:18
- Town’s minutes only — Conservation Administrator to visit Montouri site: “conservation administrator marro will be requested to visit the site for any wetland issues prior to a closure plan being requested”
- Town’s minutes only — Mulpus Road timber bid $41,429.36 and accounts payable warrant $512,063.76: “a high bid of $41,429.36 was received and awarded to blanchflower logging, inc.”
- Town’s minutes only — Wallis Park playground funding: “$12,000 was appropriated through the 2017 capital plan for the playground area, but a citizen's petition is requesting an additional $25,000”
- Town’s minutes only — Other attendees: “also present: heather lemieux, town manager”
Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 4:08Municipal employees contract year 1
Year one cost comes from the salary reserve line in the current budget; special town meeting to fund it.
as heard:13,000 746 and 45 cents
- ▶ 1:00:00Beach pass fees
Beach passes rose this year; swim lessons are closest to self-sustaining.
as heard:$40 a family$50 a family$60 per family
- ▶ 1:15:29Town beach revenue
Beach brought in a total, including swim lessons.
as heard:nine thousand three hundred and one dollarstwo thousand and eighty dollars
- ▶ 1:33:22Turf field bond funding
Bond paid via school and Bengals payments plus cell tower revenue.
as heard:forty seven thousand five hundred dollars
- ▶ 1:40:35Artificial turf fund balance
Spreadsheet shows fund balance after bond payoff and later.
as heard:134704
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 8:18Agreed to start the December 12th meeting earlier, at 6:00, to combine with the economic development workshop.
- ▶ 2:29:03Agreed to keep working on the issues and reschedule further talks on Turkey Hill and central offices; list of school office space needs to be provided.
Documents and exhibits
The town’s minutes
The minutes print no list of documents and exhibits.
Named in the running text, not in a list:
- Special Town Meeting warrant (mailer front cover and inside warrant)
- Memorandum to the Board of Selectmen on the track and field agreement
- Letter from the Bengals to the Board of Selectmen
- Informational packet on the history of the track and field agreement (sent by Superintendent Calmes)
- Draft MOA (track and field)
- Facilities presentation by Mr. Londa (presented to School Committee, available on youtube dated October 16th)
- Citizen's petition for Wallis Park funding
- Earth removal permits (#1 Ralph Montouri; #32 and #54 Powell Sand & Gravel; 11 P.J. Keating permits)
- Green Communities annual report to DOER (due mid-December)
- Waiver and release of liability form (walking tour)
Heard in the recording
- ▶ 4:49waiver and release of liability formother· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Waiver and release of liability form (walking tour)”)
- ▶ 1:40:15spreadsheet on turf fundspreadsheet· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
- ▶ 1:59:30Turkey Hill PowerPointpresentation· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:05Resident asked the town manager to confirm that the sign at the Public Safety Building was working. — Paseos, 56 Whiting Street, as heard
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- fees76 min · 51%
- recreation47 min · 31%
- capital47 min · 31%
- facilities45 min · 30%
- turkey hill35 min · 23%
- msba35 min · 23%
- athletics29 min · 19%
- debt29 min · 19%
- planning and zoning24 min · 16%
- legal24 min · 16%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:13Announcements on special town meeting date and public commentinformational · 2:53 long · town meeting, public comment
- ▶ 3:06Town Manager reportinformational · 10:25 long · contracts and unions, facilities, grants
- ▶ 13:31Earth removal permitsmotions made, results not audible · 24:15 long · planning and zoning, legal
- ▶ 37:46Minutes and warrantsinformational · 1:00 long · transfers
- ▶ 41:16Parks, fields and beach workshopinformational · 47:13 long · recreation, fees, capital
- ▶ 1:28:29Artificial turf field agreementinformational · 28:54 long · athletics, fees, debt
- ▶ 1:57:23Turkey Hill future and central officesinformational · 34:52 long · turkey hill, msba, facilities
- ▶ 2:32:36Executive sessionmotion made · 0:41 long · executive session
What the captions could not carry
- Results of the earth removal permit votes
- Executive session roll call
Reports this meeting suggests
Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.
- ▶ 1:40:35Turf field capital plansWill the turf fund cover maintenance and replacement of the field?already answered:
topic:turf-field-capital-plans - ▶ 2:06:09Turkey Hill capital needsWhat does the Turkey Hill roof and renovation timeline cost with MSBA?already answered:
thread:turkey-hill-rebuild
These are ours, and they are not the record
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Every other report
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