What was said

Select Board, May 1, 2018

the recording · 3:06 long, about 24,373 words spoken · captions carried this meeting moderately well

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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.

The short version

  1. ▶ 27:00The Select Board withheld a recommendation on Article 25, which would add Tilton Ave to the sewer service area, after a long discussion.
  2. ▶ 58:50A resident proposed a floor amendment to add an EMS firefighter for 24/7 coverage, paid by redirecting savings from fire truck borrowing; the town manager and some members objected.
  3. ▶ 57:01The board moved to recommend repeal of the cigarette rolling paper chapter and to pass over articles 27 and 28; the minutes record the votes as not audible.
  4. ▶ 1:50:50The board moved to set the stormwater task force at one member each from three boards, plus two alternates; the vote was not audible.
  5. ▶ 2:56:50A workshop on the future of five town buildings ended with consensus direction, and a member offered to turn the recommendations into a graphic.

Why it matters — our reading

  • The Tilton Ave article and the firefighter amendment both go to Town Meeting, where residents vote on sewer service area and on whether to change staffing and borrowing plans on the floor.
  • Moving money from fire truck borrowing to a hire changes what is paid now versus what is borrowed, so the effect reaches the tax bill and fire and EMS coverage.
  • The building workshop points toward a recommendation on town offices and other facilities that residents will later be asked to weigh.

Watch next

  • Next week's agenda: the Open Meeting Law determination and an open goals review, with a reorganization meeting proposed for the first June meeting.
  • A joint meeting with the Finance Committee after Town Meeting on taxes and the two and a half percent assumption.

budgetcapitaldebteconomic developmentfacilitiesgrantshealth insuranceplanning and zoningpublic commentpublic safetysuperintendent reporttown departmentstown meetingwarrant articlewater sewer

Present: Polly (member); Heather (town manager); Damon (member); Phyllis (member); Bob (member); Adam Burnie (land use director). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.

Votes

  1. ▶ 57:01Recommend approval of the article repealing the cigarette rolling paper chapter. — moved by a member, as heardnot audible
  2. ▶ 58:30Recommend passing over articles 27 and 28.not audible
  3. ▶ 1:50:50Change stormwater task force composition to one member each from Conservation Commission, Board of Selectmen and Planning Board, plus two alternates appointed by the board.not audible

And 1 procedural: close the meeting (adjourn). (▶ 3:06:14).

Against the town’s minutes

The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 11 agree, 3 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 4 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a partial record.

  1. differsCigarette rolling paper article vote▶ 57:01

    recording Recommend approval of the article repealing the cigarette rolling paper chapter. — not audible

    town’s minutes “motion: r. ebersole 2n°: p. bertram to recommend approval of article 26”

    Both record a recommendation of approval, but ours calls it a repeal of the chapter and the official minutes call it a citizen petition to allow sale of rolling papers; check the article text and the recording to see what Article 26 does.

  2. differsTC Passios five-year upkeep▶ 2:49:10

    recording TC Passios five-year upkeep: two million nine thirty two 253, seven hundred and fifty thousand, six hundred and eighty thousand

    town’s minutes “additional $7,153 for general ada improvements (stripe spaces, convert urinals to lowered”

    The $2,932,253 five-year figure matches. Ours also has $750,000 and $680,000, while the official minutes give a $755,500 hazardous materials allowance, so check those against the recording.

  3. differsTaxes and 2.5% assumption▶ 1:53:50

    recording Taxes and the two and a half percent assumption to be discussed in a joint meeting with the Finance Committee after Town Meeting.

    town’s minutes “action file issue: ms. luck reiterated she would like a discussion about raising taxes by 2.5% every year and”

    The official minutes record a request for discussion but the excerpt does not show the joint Finance Committee meeting after Town Meeting; check the full text.

  4. differsAttendees

    recording Polly (member); Heather (town manager); Damon (member); Phyllis (member); Bob (member); Adam Burnie (land use director)

    town’s minutes “mr. toale reported the board received a letter dated april 25, 2018 from the attorney general's office,”

    The first names from the captions probably correspond to Ms. Bertram (Polly), Ms. Luck (Heather?), Mr. Toale, Ms. Lemieux, Mr. Ebersole (Bob?), and Mr. McQuaid, but they do not clearly match, so check against the roster. Adam Burnie is Adam Burney in the official minutes, a spelling difference.

3 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
  • LED Option 1 total:126 eight oh eight seventy nine→$126,808.79▶ 1:22:09
  • Debt refunding / pavement bond figures:fifty-four thousand nine forty six and fifty five cents, 37,000 808 67→▶ 1:26:17
  • Tax title collections:one hundred and four thousand nine hundred and thirty 4.9 six cents→$104,934.96▶ 1:33:11
In one record only: 8 from the recording, 2 from the town’s minutes
  • Recording only — Fire truck borrowing transfer to fund EMS firefighter: Proposed transfer from fire truck borrowing/capital to fund the extra EMS firefighter — $60,000 (discussed only) ▶ 1:09:54
  • Recording only — Monty Tech assessment reduction: Monty Tech assessment reduction: eighty four thousand dollars ▶ 6:53
  • Recording only — Fire truck borrowing $535,000: Fire truck borrowing: five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars ▶ 1:08:09
  • Recording only — Motor vehicle excise figures: Motor vehicle excise: 198 thousand seven hundred and seventy two dollars and thirty cents, eighty four thousand two hundred eighty one dollars and forty three cents ▶ 1:32:29
  • Recording only — Grant sources for building reuse: Grant sources for building reuse: five hundred thousand dollar, $100,000 to 750 thousand dollars ▶ 2:12:40
  • Recording only — Cost to average homeowner $14: Cost to average homeowner: $14 ▶ 1:04:15
  • Recording only — Health insurance assumptions: Health insurance assumptions: twenty five thousand dollar, fifteen thousand ▶ 1:10:36
  • Recording only — Goals review and reorganization meeting: Goals review to be an open discussion at next week's meeting; reorganization meeting proposed for the first June meeting. ▶ 1:54:50
  • Town’s minutes only — Hickory Hills Article 21 and Tilton Ave. sewer article, no votes: “although the board would not be voting tonight, he”
  • Town’s minutes only — Accounts payable and payroll warrants: “accounts payable warrants in the amount of $2149.20 and $1,059,060.76 were presented.”

Compared 2026-11-05. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.

Transfers

atwhat movedamount, as heardoutcome
▶ 1:09:54Proposed transfer from fire truck borrowing/capital to fund the extra EMS firefighter$60,000discussed only

The money

  1. ▶ 6:53Monty Tech assessment reduction

    A resident said the assessment dropped after the February balanced budget and the savings went to reduce fire truck borrowing.

    as heard:eighty four thousand dollars

  2. ▶ 7:38Extra EMS firefighter

    The resident said pulling the hire forward one year costs a stated amount including indirect costs.

    as heard:sixty thousand dollars

  3. ▶ 1:00:19Overtime for added firefighters

    The town manager gave an approximate overtime cost for two additional staff.

    as heard:approximately 40,000

  4. ▶ 1:04:15Cost to average homeowner

    The resident said shifting the money from the ladder truck borrowing costs the average homeowner a small amount over five years.

    as heard:$14

  5. ▶ 1:08:09Fire truck borrowing

    The February budget carried borrowing for the fire truck that was later reduced.

    as heard:five hundred and thirty-five thousand dollars

  6. ▶ 1:10:36Health insurance assumptions

    The resident explained a conservative insurance figure and the average plan cost.

    as heard:twenty five thousand dollarfifteen thousand

  7. ▶ 1:12:21Stipend savings

    Full-time staff would eliminate on-call stipends and duty officer costs.

    as heard:$31,00026,000ten point four thousand

  8. ▶ 1:22:09LED streetlight conversion

    Unitil quoted depreciated value and conversion options for the town's streetlights, with estimated annual savings.

    as heard:eighty one thousand eight hundred and eight dollars and seventy nine cents126 eight oh eight seventy nine81 thousand 808 seventy ninetwenty nine thousand seven hundred and sixty dollars

  9. ▶ 1:26:17Debt refunding and pavement bond

    Refunding and the bond issuance changed principal, interest and offsetting revenue with no net budget effect.

    as heard:fifty-four thousand nine forty six and fifty five cents37,000 808 67

  10. ▶ 1:29:23Health insurance agreement

    The new PEC agreement reduces the town's open liability by an estimated amount.

    as heard:eight million dollars

  11. ▶ 1:30:26State earmark for Eagle House HVAC

    A state capital earmark for failing HVAC passed the House budget.

    as heard:25,000

  12. ▶ 1:32:29Motor vehicle excise

    Assessors reported commitment totals and the increase over last year.

    as heard:198 thousand seven hundred and seventy two dollars and thirty centseighty four thousand two hundred eighty one dollars and forty three cents

  13. ▶ 1:33:11Tax title collections

    Collections from tax title properties were reported.

    as heard:one hundred and four thousand nine hundred and thirty 4.9 six cents

  14. ▶ 2:36:19Old primary school condition costs

    The property condition assessment gave immediate repairs and five-year upkeep costs.

    as heard:seven hundred and eighteen thousand eight hundred and eighty dollarsseven hundred and seventy five thousand two hundred and sixty dollars308,000

  15. ▶ 2:49:10TC Passios five-year upkeep

    The assessment put five-year upkeep high, driven by windows, roof and HVAC.

    as heard:two million nine thirty two 253seven hundred and fifty thousandsix hundred and eighty thousand

  16. ▶ 2:12:40Grant sources for building reuse

    A member listed grant programs that could fund reuse.

    as heard:five hundred thousand dollar$100,000 to 750 thousand dollars

Settled without a vote

  • ▶ 1:22The Open Meeting Law determination topic will be added to next week's agenda.
  • ▶ 1:54:50Goals review to be an open discussion at next week's meeting; reorganization meeting proposed for the first June meeting.
  • ▶ 1:53:50Taxes and the two and a half percent assumption to be discussed in a joint meeting with the Finance Committee after Town Meeting.
  • ▶ 2:56:50A member volunteered to turn the building recommendations into a graphic to present to the town.

Documents and exhibits

The town’s minutes

The minutes print a list, headed ms. bertram presented a powerpoint presentation on her ideas., with nothing under it.

Named in the running text, not in a list:

  • Letter from the Attorney General's office, Division of Open Government, dated April 25, 2018
  • Attorney General's Open Meeting Law training videos (#1 and #2)
  • Annual Town Meeting Article 21 (Perpetual Easement along and upon portions of Town-owned property)
  • Citizen petition, ATM Article 26 (Eliminate Chapter 127 Cigarettes, 127-1, 127-2 and allow sale of cigarette rolling papers)
  • Annual Town Meeting Articles 27 and 28 (Charter Review Committee)
  • Formal quote from Unitil on LED streetlight conversion
  • Presentation of the Town Counsel at the Open Meeting Law training
  • Updated Public Employee Committee Agreement
  • Draft performance evaluations for management and non-management personnel
  • Extended Day registration form
  • Capital Improvement Bill list of capital projects (FY19 state budget)
  • Vertex Property Condition Assessments for Town Hall, Ritter, Passios and old Primary (February 13, 2018 presentation)
  • Timeline of Discussion on Town Facilities
  • Ms. Bertram's PowerPoint presentation on town facility ideas

Heard in the recording

  • ▶ 0:20letter dated April 25th 2018 from the attorney general's officeletter or email· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Letter from the Attorney General's office, Division of Open Government, dated April 25, 2018”)
  • ▶ 1:09:34cost analysisspreadsheet· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 1:47:15stormwater master plan minimum control measuresreport· mentioned in the recording, not found in the minutes
  • ▶ 2:32:24property condition assessments by vertexreport· named in the minutes’ text, not in a list (“Vertex Property Condition Assessments for Town Hall, Ritter, Passios and old Primary (February 13, 2018 presentation)”)

State law asks minutes to list the documents and exhibits used at a meeting (M.G.L. c.30A §22(a)). Names from the recording are the caption model’s hearing; the two sides are matched by name, by script, so a document named two different ways can be missed. A place to look, not a finding.

Public comment

  1. ▶ 2:03Announced the May 3 selectmen candidates debate at the middle high school. — tom alonso 284 lancaster avenue, as heard
  2. ▶ 3:45Proposed Town Meeting amendment to add an EMS staff member for 24/7 fire coverage by redirecting the lower Monty Tech assessment savings from fire truck borrowing. — Carl luck 50 sunset lane, as heard
  3. ▶ 2:59:02Raised consistency on citizen petition article 26 and student safety concerns about putting town offices on the school campus. — Katie Adams from Williams Drive, as heard
  4. ▶ 3:01:07Supported the 24/7 coverage amendment and criticised how boards treat residents who bring ideas forward. — Ron D'Alessio 181 Reservoir Road, as heard

Where the time went

Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.

The whole meeting, in order

  1. ▶ 0:00Open Meeting Law finding and announcementsinformational · 2:03 long · legal
  2. ▶ 2:03Public comment: candidates debate and 24/7 EMS amendmentinformational · 8:45 long · public comment, public safety, budget
  3. ▶ 10:48Hickory Hills dam easement articleinformational · 16:12 long · warrant article, town meeting
  4. ▶ 27:00Article 25 Tilton Ave sewer service arearecommendation withheld · 27:30 long · water sewer, warrant article, planning and zoning
  5. ▶ 54:30Cigarette rolling paper article and passing over 27 and 28motions made · 4:20 long · warrant article, town meeting
  6. ▶ 58:50Amendment to add EMS firefighterdiscussed · 21:37 long · budget, public safety, staffing
  7. ▶ 1:20:27Town manager reportinformational · 26:28 long · superintendent report, town departments, health insurance
  8. ▶ 1:46:55Stormwater task force membershipmotion made · 4:35 long · town departments
  9. ▶ 1:51:30Warrants, action file, taxesreferred · 4:39 long · tax rate, budget
  10. ▶ 1:56:09Town facilities workshopconsensus direction · 1:02:28 long · facilities, capital, economic development
  11. ▶ 2:58:37Schedule and public commentinformational · 7:37 long · public comment

What the captions could not carry

  • Vote counts for all motions were not captured.
  • Several figures in the facilities cost discussion are garbled.

Reports this meeting suggests

Our reading of the discussion: questions where numbers were in play and a page laying them out would have helped. Every meeting’s suggestions are merged into one register.

  • ▶ 58:50Fire staffing planWhat would adding an EMS firefighter now cost and where would the money come from?already answered: thread:fourth-fire-shift
  • ▶ 2:32:24Town building conceptsWhat do the five town buildings cost to keep, and what would each reuse option cost?already answered: thread:town-offices
  • ▶ 1:22:09Street light LED conversionWhat do Unitil's LED conversion options cost and save?

These are ours, and they are not the record

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