What was said
Select Board, June 9, 2025
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 53:54The Select Board made overhauling the FY27 budget process its top FY26 goal, through new joint 'tri-board' meetings with the finance and school committees, and left a town/school override on the table.
- ▶ 3:53The board approved a farmers-market alcohol sampling permit for Pony Shack Cider Inc. for five dates from June through September.
- ▶ 2:21:20The board drafted goals touching municipal properties, including TC Pacios, 925 Main Street, tax title parcels, and the Brooks House/Municipal Building Design Committee, without finalizing the goals document that night.
- ▶ 2:09:28The board added an action item for a fall special town meeting article to redirect previously appropriated TC Pacios roof-repair funds to the part of the building that will remain in use.
- ▶ 3:00:54The town manager was directed to report back on how much ARPA money remains unspent this calendar year, since unspent funds are lost after a deadline.
Why it matters — our reading
- Naming an override 'not off the table' inside the FY27 budget goal signals residents may eventually be asked to vote on a Proposition 2½ override tied to the school and town budgets.
- The tri-board process would change how the town budget gets built, adding joint select board/finance/school committee meetings ahead of FY27.
- Decisions on TC Pacios, 925 Main Street, and the Brooks House affect which town buildings are kept, sold, or redeveloped, with a possible fall town meeting article on redirecting roof-repair funds.
Watch next
- Finalized FY26 select board and town manager goals, due in writing by July 15 per the town manager's contract
- Town manager's report on remaining unspent ARPA funds, targeted for the board's next meeting
budgetbudget fy27capitalcontracts and unionseconomic developmentfacilitiesgrantshealth insurancehiringoverridepersonnelpolicystaffingtax ratetown departmentstown meetingtransferswarrant article
Present: the chair (chair); the town manager (town manager); Jen (member); Renee (member); Brian Lehtinen (member); Nathan McKinley (Nate) (presenter). 1 of 6 matched to the board’s posted roster; the rest, in italics, are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 3:53Approve the farmers market permit/alcohol sampling application for Pony Shack Cider Inc. for the June 13, July 11, August 8, September 12, and September 27 farmers markets.passed unanimously
And 1 procedural: adjourn the meeting at 9:03 p.m. (▶ 3:00:54).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 3 agree, 1 caption error resolved by the official reading, 9 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording the chair (chair); the town manager (town manager); Jen (member); Renee (member); Brian (member); Nathan McKinley (Nate) (presenter)
town’s minutes “Members Present: Chair Caesar Nuzzolo, Vice-Chair Renee Emkey, Clerk Amanda Moore, Member Brian Lehtinen, and Member Glenn Mcleod”
Ours lists Jen as a board member; the official minutes name Jennifer Warren as Town Manager, and name Amanda Moore and Glenn McLeod as members, so check who 'Jen' is in the recording. The official minutes also give Renee Emkey inconsistent titles (Vice-Chair, Clerk), and the motion is seconded by 'Vice Chair Amanda Moore'.
recording The board defined a new 'tri-board' as regularly scheduled joint meetings of the select board, finance committee, and school committee to prepare the FY27 budget.
town’s minutes “Chair Nuzzolo revised Objective 1 to include: (including Select Board, Finance Committee and School Committee)”
Both say the tri-board is the Select Board, Finance Committee and School Committee, but the official minutes record this as a wording change to Objective 1, not a standalone definition. Check the recording only if the distinction matters.
recording Employee recognition program bonus: $200, couple hundred bucks, $25
town’s minutes “Employees are not being motivated by $200”
The official minutes give only $200. The $25 in ours may be a separate remark or a caption misreading, so check the recording at about t=6990.
recording The onboarding/orientation objective for the town manager was tabled for further work rather than finalized that night.
town’s minutes “Chair Nuzzolo suggested the wording to including “ begin to develop ” regarding the onboarding.”
Ours says the objective was tabled. The official minutes show it reworded (begin to develop) and say it is a multi-year goal, with no tabling. Check the recording to see whether it was tabled or reworded.
recording Previously appropriated funds for roof repair on one portion of the TC Pacios building to be moved, via a fall special town meeting article, to the portion of the building now planned to remain in use.
town’s minutes “There was money allocated for the roof repair but now they are doing something different and so at town meeting they have to get the funding moved to another area of the building.”
The official minutes say 'at town meeting' and, in Chair Nuzzolo's wording, 'roof repair (special town meeting)'. They do not say 'fall'. They also record no action item for an article, only a goal objective. Check the recording. Ours also lists '300' as a figure, which the official minutes do not give.
recording Agreed the 925 Main Street sale objective will be measured by completion of sale preparation and process, not strictly a completed sale within the fiscal year.
town’s minutes “Complete the sale within the fiscal year.”
The official minutes name the property '925 Mass Ave' and record the objective as 'Complete the sale within the fiscal year', with no softening. Check the recording for the address and for whether the measure was loosened.
recording 925 Main Street assessed value: couple hundred thousand; Tax title parcels value: 184,000
town’s minutes “Clerk Emkey asked what the assessed value is. Town Manager Warren-Dyment stated is $184k”
The official minutes give $184k as the assessed value of the 925 property. Ours puts 184,000 on tax title parcels and 'couple hundred thousand' on 925 Main Street. Check which property the $184k belongs to.
recording Removed TC Pacios and 925 Main Street from the 'municipal properties' goal draft; folded TC Pacios into the Municipal Building Design Committee objective and added the Brooks House there instead.
town’s minutes “Chair Nuzzolo stated that he is going to remove 925 Mass Avenue and replace it with the Brooks House. Clerk Emkey stated they should also remove TC Pa ss ios.”
Both record the removals and the Brooks House. The official minutes do not say TC Pacios was folded into the Municipal Building Design Committee objective. Check the recording.
recording Directed the town manager to report back (targeted for the next meeting) on how much ARPA money remains unspent this calendar year.
town’s minutes “Clerk Emkey asked Town Manager Warren-Dyment to look into how much ARPA money is left this year.”
Same request, but ours says the board directed it with a next-meeting target. The official minutes record one member asking, with no deadline. Check the recording.
1 caption error the town’s minutes resolve
- Compensation classification study cost:Compensation classification study: 20 grand→$20,000▶ 55:17
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 0 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Contract deadlines for goals: Noted (per the town manager's contract) that goals must be finalized in writing by July 15, with self-evaluation due by April 15 and a November check-in. ▶ 1:51:23
- Recording only — Municipal building capital cost vs. free cash: Municipal building capital cost vs. free cash: 2 million ▶ 2:27:15
- Recording only — Municipal Building Design Committee cost escalation: Municipal Building Design Committee project cost escalation: 15 million, 20, 23 million ▶ 2:34:38
- Recording only — Annual town report printing $50: Annual town report printing requirement: $50 ▶ 2:46:32
- Recording only — Warrant book printing and mailing cost: Cost of printing/mailing town meeting warrant books: 7,000, 78,000 ▶ 2:49:40
- Recording only — FY27 budget process as top-priority goal: The board agreed the FY27 budget process/timeline is the select board's top-priority goal for FY26. ▶ 53:54
- Recording only — Skipping Q&A on goal-setting methodology: The board agreed to skip a general Q&A on goal-setting methodology and go straight into reviewing FY25 goals. ▶ 5:15
Compared 2026-10-06. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
Transfers
| at | what moved | amount, as heard | outcome |
|---|---|---|---|
| ▶ 2:09:28 | Previously appropriated funds for roof repair on one portion of the TC Pacios building to be moved, via a fall special town meeting article, to the portion of the building now planned to remain in use. | 300 | discussed only, action item set for a future warrant article |
The money
- ▶ 55:17Compensation classification study
The town manager said a professional compensation/classification study, wanted by staff for years, would need outside funding, possibly sought at the fall special town meeting.
as heard:20 grand
- ▶ 1:56:30Employee recognition program bonus
The prior SAP bylaw change created a small monetary award for a recognition program; the board discussed removing the money and using a plaque or small gift card instead.
as heard:$200couple hundred bucks$25
- ▶ 2:17:08925 Main Street assessed value
A member asked the assessed value of the 925 Main Street property being prepared for sale.
as heard:couple hundred thousand
- ▶ 2:17:50Tax title parcels value
The treasurer/collector is preparing a tax title auction; one parcel's value was cited while discussing which properties boards want to retain.
as heard:184,000
- ▶ 2:27:15Municipal building capital cost vs. free cash
A member noted a project cost that would consume the town's entire free cash for a good year, illustrating why it can't be done through ordinary capital planning.
as heard:2 million
- ▶ 2:34:38Municipal Building Design Committee project cost escalation
A member recalled the committee's goal was to keep the prior building project under one figure, but it grew substantially before town meeting rejected it.
as heard:15 million2023 million
- ▶ 2:46:32Annual town report printing requirement
Board discussed whether state law only requires an annual report to exist, not to be printed, citing a fine for non-compliance, while considering digitizing it.
as heard:$50
- ▶ 2:49:40Cost of printing/mailing town meeting warrant books
The town manager pulled up the cost of printing and mailing the full warrant book to look at postcard/digital alternatives.
as heard:7,00078,000
- ▶ 2:59:34Remaining ARPA funds
A member asked the town manager to find out how much ARPA money remains unspent this calendar year, since unspent funds are lost after the deadline, with some possible new federal flexibility.
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 5:15The board agreed to skip a general Q&A on goal-setting methodology and go straight into reviewing FY25 goals.
- ▶ 53:54The board agreed the FY27 budget process/timeline is the select board's top-priority goal for FY26.
- ▶ 1:04:21The board defined a new 'tri-board' as regularly scheduled joint meetings of the select board, finance committee, and school committee to prepare the FY27 budget.
- ▶ 1:21:53Financial policy review/adoption (from the DLS community compact grant) was moved out of the budget goal and made objective one under a separate 'review select board policies' goal instead.
- ▶ 1:48:23The onboarding/orientation objective for the town manager was tabled for further work rather than finalized that night.
- ▶ 1:51:23Noted (per the town manager's contract) that goals must be finalized in writing by July 15, with self-evaluation due by April 15 and a November check-in.
- ▶ 2:09:28Added an action item to bring a fall special town meeting article moving previously appropriated TC Pacios roof-repair funds to the portion of the building that will remain in use.
- ▶ 2:16:46Agreed the 925 Main Street sale objective will be measured by completion of sale preparation and process, not strictly a completed sale within the fiscal year.
- ▶ 2:21:20Removed TC Pacios and 925 Main Street from the 'municipal properties' goal draft; folded TC Pacios into the Municipal Building Design Committee objective and added the Brooks House there instead.
- ▶ 2:46:11Moved the warrant-mailing/postcard bylaw idea into the FY27 budget goal's objectives rather than treating it as a separate goal.
- ▶ 3:00:54Directed the town manager to report back (targeted for the next meeting) on how much ARPA money remains unspent this calendar year.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- budget fy2749 min · 30%
- town meeting41 min · 25%
- facilities37 min · 22%
- personnel35 min · 21%
- policy34 min · 20%
- capital34 min · 20%
- contracts and unions24 min · 14%
- health insurance18 min · 11%
- override17 min · 10%
- hiring17 min · 10%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Meeting opened, recording notice and agenda disclaimerinformational · 0:20 long
- ▶ 0:22Farmers market alcohol sampling permit for Pony Shack Cider Inc.voted · 3:58 long · economic development
- ▶ 4:33Introduction to FY26 goal-setting methodology (SMART goals)informational · 0:42 long · policy
- ▶ 5:15Review of FY25 select board goals: employee listening sessions, climate survey, recognition program, professional development, staff eventsreviewed, carried forward as needed · 5:53 long · personnel, contracts and unions
- ▶ 11:08Review of FY25 goal on formalizing the select board/town manager goal-setting process itselffolded into new policy objective · 5:48 long · policy
- ▶ 16:56Transparency goal: recording all board/committee meetings, website data currency, standardized minutes/agendas, online meeting packets, PACT informational sessionsreviewed; some carried to policy, some informational · 12:06 long · policy, town departments
- ▶ 29:02Org chart, job descriptions, SOPs, succession planning, and IT/software inventory goalmostly dropped as not select-board actionable · 8:28 long · personnel, staffing, technology
- ▶ 37:50Setting FY27 budget as the board's top goal; drafting process/timeline languagedrafted, not finalized · 13:58 long · budget fy27, town meeting
- ▶ 47:38Reviewing and finalizing draft financial policies from DLS community compact grantmoved to separate policy goal · 1:44 long · budget, policy
- ▶ 51:48Drafting tri-board budget objective, department-head presentation calendar, compensation/classification study need, override languagedrafted, not finalized · 17:29 long · budget fy27, override, hiring
- ▶ 1:09:17Town manager's budget objectives: multi-year forecast, public forums, department analysis, PEC/health insurance modificationsdrafted, not finalized · 17:51 long · budget fy27, health insurance
- ▶ 1:37:17Town manager employee-experience goal: SAP bylaw amendments (vacation time), orientation/onboarding programsdrafted; onboarding target dates removed · 9:46 long · personnel, contracts and unions
- ▶ 1:50:14Discussion of town manager evaluation timeline and instrument (per contract)informational, evaluation instrument to be shared later · 2:50 long · personnel, policy
- ▶ 1:53:04Employee recognition program carryover: repeal/replace SAP monetary bonus with non-monetary recognitiondrafted, not finalized · 8:20 long · personnel, contracts and unions
- ▶ 2:01:24TC Pacios building partial decommissioning, short/long-term building plan, operating costsdrafted goal language · 12:14 long · facilities, capital
- ▶ 2:13:38Completing the sale of 925 Main Streetdrafted goal, objective softened to 'preparation and completion' · 3:50 long · economic development, facilities
- ▶ 2:17:28Tax title properties and planned auctiondrafted goal language · 1:24 long · tax rate, town departments
- ▶ 2:18:52Brooks House and Municipal Building Design Committee path forward, charge/composition review, past building-project failure discussiondrafted goal language, extended board discussion of prior project's failure · 21:21 long · facilities, capital, town meeting
- ▶ 2:40:55Select board policy-review goal: special events policy, appointment/reappointment policy, goal-setting/evaluation policy, periodic fee review, annual report/warrant digitizationdrafted goal language · 9:48 long · policy, warrant article
- ▶ 2:52:26Discussion of a possible town-meeting budget message/informational materials (no formal goal added)no resolution · 6:04 long · budget, town meeting
- ▶ 2:58:30Bylaw committee status updateinformational · 1:04 long · policy
- ▶ 2:59:34Action item: ARPA funds remaining to be spent this yearreferred to town manager for follow-up · 1:20 long · grants
- ▶ 3:00:54Adjournmentvoted · 0:21 long
What the captions could not carry
- Exact vote tallies were never given -- only 'unanimous' for both votes taken.
- The town manager's own name was never stated in captions.
- The exact figure for warrant-book printing/mailing cost ('7,000 78,000') is garbled and unclear.
- The exact dollar amount to be moved for TC Pacios roof repair ('300') is unclear -- likely $300,000 but not stated as such.
- 925 Main Street's assessed value was given only as 'couple hundred thousand,' no exact figure.
- Several stretches of the goal-drafting session are cross-talk with overlapping speakers and incomplete sentences as the board edited a shared document live.
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