What was said
Sewer Commission, January 9, 2024
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The town published minutes (text) and an agenda for this meeting. Those minutes are the record; what follows is a guide to the recording.
The short version
- ▶ 1:22:23The Sewer Commission voted to authorize its negotiating committee to take the intermunicipal agreement with Leominster to the next step.
- ▶ 26:46The commission voted to extend the One Main Street grease trap deadline for the landlord to January 29th.
- ▶ 20:50Wright-Pierce said rerouting sewage from Fitchburg to Leominster was not cost effective; the commission will hold off updating that analysis until the Leominster talks clarify rates.
- ▶ 1:20:08The draft agreement will go to Leominster to be redlined, including new sections 9 and 10; an emergency maintenance rate is to be agreed by July 1, 2024.
- ▶ 30:18The commission heard that billing software problems mean demands cannot run and late fees are not being collected while bills remain outstanding.
Why it matters — our reading
- The agreement with Leominster will set the rates for sewage treatment, and the commission's staff expect the initial increase to be substantial, so it bears on future sewer bills.
- Capital needs were described as running at a large annual level through 2032 and will factor into a rate increase, and the billing software failure means some bills are going uncollected in the meantime.
Watch next
- Leominster's redline of the draft agreement, including new sections 9 and 10, and the emergency maintenance rate due to be agreed by July 1, 2024.
- The pump station tour on Friday the 12th and the Personnel Committee meeting on the 17th on the sewer business manager job description.
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Present: John Reynolds (chair); Brett ramsten (member); Dave McDonald (member); Mike KN (member); Mike Mackin (member); Bill Bernard (staff (DPW)); Paula (sewer business manager / staff); Kevin Olen (presenter (Wright-Pierce)); Matt Corbin (presenter (Wright-Pierce)); Robert Lily (presenter (CTE wastewater operator)); Jan rley (staff). Names are the caption model’s hearing and may be wrong.
Votes
- ▶ 26:46Extend the One Main Street grease trap deadline for the landlord to January 29th — moved by Dave McDonald, as heardpassed
- ▶ 1:22:23Authorize the negotiating committee to take the IMA to the next step with Leominsterpassed
And 2 procedural: accept the minutes of the 12/12/23 meeting (▶ 23:56); adjourn the meeting (▶ 1:30:30).
Against the town’s minutes
The town published minutes (text) for this meeting; ours were compared item by item. 8 agree, 7 caption errors resolved by the official reading, 6 substantive differences. The town’s minutes are a full record.
recording Rerouting flow from Fitchburg to Leominster: 2.4 million, 6.5 million
town’s minutes “they estimated the 20 year savings of redirecting the flow would be $2 million vs the construction cost of $6 million, so”
Figures differ beyond misheard digits ($2.4M/$6.5M vs $2M/$6M); check the recording near this point and the Wright-Pierce analysis.
recording Leominster rate increase under IMA renegotiation: more than 10%, 30%
town’s minutes “paula stated there will be a substantial increase initially -more than 10% to start.”
Both say more than 10%; ours also has a 30% figure that the official minutes do not record (official mentions a 70% factor in section 18-1 only). Check the recording for what 30% referred to.
recording Lost late-fee revenue from billing software: $10 fee, 238, $22,000, $2,300
town’s minutes “there are currently 238 bills still outstanding, which is $2,300 they are losing.”
$10, 238 and $2,300 match; ours also has $22,000 which the official does not record. Check whether it is a separate annual or total figure or a mishearing.
recording 20,000
town’s minutes “paula noted that in the past years they have not spent more than $25k on capital”
$20,000 vs $25k: could be misheard, but verify against the recording.
recording Connection fees under the IMA: 5%, 12%, $3500
town’s minutes “john asked to make a correction to section 18-1 (connection charge), where they redlined a factor of 70% and paula will correct that.”
Ours gives 5%, 12% and $3500; official gives only a 70% factor correction. Not reconcilable from the text; check the recording.
recording The commission will hold off on updating the Wright-Pierce reroute analysis until the Leominster negotiations clarify rates.
town’s minutes “john asked matt and kevin to look at the additional 7% per year.”
Official records John asking Wright Pierce to add the 7% yearly increase to the analysis, alongside the hold-off; ours records only the hold-off. Check whether both happened.
7 caption errors the town’s minutes resolve
- Capital spending and budget this year:Capital spending and budget this year: 52559, 95,4→$52,559 spent; $95,408 budgeted▶ 53:15
- Attendee Brett Ramsden:Brett ramsten (member)→Brett Ramsden▶ 0:00
- Attendee Mike Nault:Mike KN (member)→Mike Nault▶ 0:00
- Attendee Dave MacDonald:Dave McDonald (member)→Dave MacDonald▶ 0:00
- Attendee Kevin Olson:Kevin Olen (presenter (Wright-Pierce))→Kevin Olson▶ 0:00
- Attendee Robert Lilley:Robert Lily (presenter (CTE wastewater operator))→Robert Lilley▶ 0:00
- Attendee Jane Ranley:Jan rley (staff)→Jane Ranley▶ 0:00
In one record only: 7 from the recording, 3 from the town’s minutes
- Recording only — Staff time on billing software problem: Staff time on the billing software problem: 400 hours ▶ 32:46
- Recording only — Odor control (carbon) replacements: Odor control (carbon) replacements: $2,500 ▶ 55:44
- Recording only — Generator replacement forecast: Generator replacement forecast: $110,000 ▶ 59:09
- Recording only — Pump station tour: Mike Mackin and the chair will tour the pump stations with Robert on Friday the 12th at 9:00 am. ▶ 1:04:22
- Recording only — Draft IMA to be sent to Leominster for redline: The draft IMA will be submitted to Leominster to be redlined, including the new sections 9 and 10. ▶ 1:20:08
- Recording only — Personnel Committee meeting on the 17th: Several commissioners will attend the Personnel Committee meeting on the 17th, which will be posted as a meeting. ▶ 1:26:14
- Recording only — Robert to meet Paula on capital priorities: Robert will meet with Paula the next morning to go over capital priorities. ▶ 1:07:13
- Town’s minutes only — Bill to be sent to Heather for billing software reimbursement: “the commissioners agreed they are upset that it is still not fixed and a bill should be sent to heather for reimbursement.”
- Town’s minutes only — Maintenance program funding of $100K per year: “dave pointed out they funded the maintenance program with $100k per year but it was not all spent.”
- Town’s minutes only — Public comment: storm response thanks and Water District meeting: “dave urged people in the water district to attend the water district meeting on 1/10 to vote on articles.”
Compared 2026-10-08. Neither record is treated as the referee: a caption error is the same fact heard badly; a difference is for a person to check at the timestamp.
The money
- ▶ 9:01Rerouting flow from Fitchburg to Leominster
Wright-Pierce estimated the 20-year savings were well below the construction cost, so it was not cost effective in their opinion.
as heard:2.4 million6.5 million
- ▶ 11:45Fitchburg sewer rate increases
Fitchburg rates were said to rise every year for five years. The analysis had not escalated Fitchburg's rate and will be updated.
as heard:7%
- ▶ 19:06Leominster rate increase under IMA renegotiation
Paula said the initial increase would be substantial, and called the 30% assumption in the analysis high.
as heard:more than 10%30%
- ▶ 30:18Lost late-fee revenue from billing software
Demands cannot run, so late fees are not being collected while bills remain outstanding.
as heard:$10 fee238$22,000$2,300
- ▶ 32:46Staff time on the billing software problem
Paula has spent a very large number of hours on the problem, and a commissioner said the time should be reimbursed.
as heard:400 hours
- ▶ 45:30Wet well pump-out quote from Hall Pump
Hall Pump quoted a price for pumping and a separate cost for disposal, and this does not include Meadow Woods.
as heard:$7,500
- ▶ 53:15Capital spending and budget this year
Spending to date was reported against the capital budget, and the high-priority items will be chosen from quotes.
as heard:5255995,4
- ▶ 55:44Odor control (carbon) replacements
These were described as low-cost items for odor only and not critical.
as heard:$2,500
- ▶ 59:09Generator replacement forecast
The forecast for a Mass 3 generator seemed an anomaly compared with Twin City and Electric Ave.
as heard:$110,000
- ▶ 1:07:35Historic capital spending and future need
Past capital spending was low, and Paula expects capital needs to run at a substantial annual figure out to 2032, which will factor into a rate increase.
as heard:20,000$120,000 a year95,000
- ▶ 1:15:36Connection fees under the IMA
Connection fees are a pass-through. The percentage increase was not settled.
as heard:5%12%$3500
- ▶ 1:16:58IMA additions
Leominster would provide maintenance hours free, with an emergency rate to be agreed by July 1, 2024.
as heard:100 hours
Settled without a vote
- ▶ 20:50The commission will hold off on updating the Wright-Pierce reroute analysis until the Leominster negotiations clarify rates.
- ▶ 1:04:22Mike Mackin and the chair will tour the pump stations with Robert on Friday the 12th at 9:00 am.
- ▶ 1:20:08The draft IMA will be submitted to Leominster to be redlined, including the new sections 9 and 10.
- ▶ 1:26:14Several commissioners will attend the Personnel Committee meeting on the 17th, which will be posted as a meeting.
- ▶ 1:07:13Robert will meet with Paula the next morning to go over capital priorities.
Public comment
- ▶ 2:47No members of the public commented at the opening.
- ▶ 1:28:17Only staff and commissioners were present. A commissioner invited residents to the water district meeting the next evening.
Where the time went
Minutes of recording by subject, from the topic spans below. A topic with two subjects counts toward both.
- water sewer72 min · 79%
- capital39 min · 43%
- contracts and unions29 min · 32%
- facilities14 min · 15%
- technology12 min · 13%
- fees12 min · 13%
- budget9 min · 10%
- public comment5 min · 5%
- personnel5 min · 5%
- hiring5 min · 5%
The whole meeting, in order
- ▶ 0:02Call to order, pledge, roll callinformational · 2:45 long
- ▶ 2:47Public and commissioner commentsinformational · 1:41 long · public comment
- ▶ 4:28Wright-Pierce review of rerouting sewage from Fitchburg to Leominsterinformational; update deferred · 18:46 long · water sewer, capital, contracts and unions
- ▶ 23:34Minutes of 12/12/23voted · 1:25 long
- ▶ 24:59One Main Street grease trap extensionvoted · 2:30 long · water sewer
- ▶ 27:51Billing software (Munis) problemsinformational · 11:53 long · technology, fees, water sewer
- ▶ 39:44System maintenance update: pump outs, grease, preventive maintenanceinformational · 13:31 long · water sewer, facilities
- ▶ 53:15Capital planning priorities and site visitinformational; site visit set · 14:20 long · capital, water sewer
- ▶ 1:07:35Capital spending history and fundinginformational · 5:34 long · capital, budget
- ▶ 1:13:09Intermunicipal agreement with Leominstervoted to proceed to next step · 10:37 long · water sewer, contracts and unions
- ▶ 1:23:46Sewer business manager job descriptiongoing to the Personnel Committee · 4:31 long · personnel, hiring
- ▶ 1:28:17Public comment, upcoming meetings, budget timeline, adjournmentadjourned · 3:13 long · public comment, budget
What the captions could not carry
- Roll-call counts for the motions were mostly given by name and 'I', but the captions garble some names.
- The quote figures for capital spending (52559 and 95,4) and the wet well pump-out costs are unclear.
- Which fiscal year the Mass 3 generator forecast belongs to is unclear.
- The speaker of some remarks cannot be identified.
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